Tulsi speaks out against regime change wars...

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  1. Blaster3

    Blaster3 Well-Known Member

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    yep, everyone sees & everyone knows that those things do hurt the democrat party...

    the truth certainly does and that's why the dems don't want her ;)
     
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  2. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not a coward...and I am replying the way I want to reply.

    You seem to want me (perhaps everyone) to reply with what you want to hear.

    In any case, Tulsi IS NOT BEING SHUNNED.
     
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    You were provided specific examples of it happening, yet edited them out of my quote and then responded to your edited version of my quote. That is a cowardly act.
     
  4. Blaster3

    Blaster3 Well-Known Member

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    and here i thought it to be a liberal act...

    hey, isn't that the sa...

    @Frank ... see how i quoted hb, that's the proper way to reply to a specific portion of a post ;)
     
  5. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not a coward...and I respond to what I want to respond to. That is what you...and everyone else here does also.

    Are you suggesting this is an interrogation...and that you have subpoena power over me?
     
  6. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about you do things the way you want to...and I do them the way I want.

    If you are suggesting you reply to every word in every post directed to you...my congratulations.
     
  7. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    DNC was not in bed with Putin on seizing territory from Ukraine - and Russia buying Uranium has what to do with what ?

    Shoot your arrows straight -

    1) in the words of Bernie Sanders "The Clinton Foundation is a Problem" Agreed - and there is some there there.
    2) What is not the "there there" is some plot to give Russia more territory - and there is no good argument for this.
    3) claims that Uranium one was some national security issue is bogus.. although brought up by a few on talk radio and other places initially - this line was quickly dropped because it is absurd. There is no shortage of Uranium - Canada (US - istan) being one of the worlds largest suppliers - the second largest supplier being Russia - stan.

    So what then is the "there there" with the Clinton foundation ? The above quote with a pic of Bernie was one of the Russian facebook ads.

    This ad was labeled "propaganda" - Russia is harming our electoral process

    Propaganda must include a falsehood - so by definition the above is not propaganda. Bernie said this numerous times on the Campaign trail. This is simply reporting the Truth. How does the electorate being exposed to "The Truth" - harm our electoral process ?

    DNC - Hillary - and others - were however messing with our electoral process. (Kind of like what is happening to Tulsi) - this was directed at Bernie - as we discovered through the Hack - and Wiki. Hilly even got the debate questions prior to the debate.

    We can go on about how the MSM treated Bernie.


    https://alethonews.com/2018/04/23/msnbc-where-journalism-goes-to-die/

    It was NATO that handed Putin Crimea. The silly part of this discussion is due to the silly notion that Crimea was not already under Russian Control. This is an appeal to ignorance of the masses.

    Russia has been in control of the port in Crimea for 400 years. It is a class 1 strategic interest. No one - with any knowledge of the region or the history - would not laugh loudly at the idea that Russia was going to allow that Port to come under the influence of NATO. FULL STOP.

    NATO had been pushing the boundaries for decades. Most every time the Russian's moved out and demilitarized from a region - NATO moved in and built a base - in many cases violating agreements.

    Bush pulled out of the ABM treaty in 2002. In 2007 plans were announced to put ABM's on Russia's border in Czech and Poland. Continuing to poke the Bear. - up until this point - the Bear had not really woken.

    This action destabilized nuclear detente' - forcing Russia to take counter measures.

    After investing heavily - in both cash and resources (in a serious effort to meddle with an election) - a pro western leader was installed - who engaged in an effort to join NATO - an effort that was entertained by NATO.

    Putin had drawn a Red line - and made this clear to NATO in no uncertain terms. NATO intentionally crossed that line.

    Then when the Bear woke up - all the NATO leaders were stammering around - feigning ignorance - "Why did Russia do that" ?!

    What Now ? What ? The Propaganda Machine did not mention this to you ?

    Back to Russia "Harming our Electoral Process" - Regardless of how the Hack was done - the fact of the matter is that what was released was "The Truth".

    How does the electorate knowing the Truth - Harm our electoral process ? Unravel that doublespeak for me if you would.

    The FB ads and wiki leaks stuff -released the Truth.

    If we want to talk meddling by foreign actors in our electoral process - this is like comparing a rain drop to a hurricane. How long of a list would you like ? via how many "foundations" - many of which are devoted to constructing the narrative - aka "Public Relations" the rebranded name of what used to be called "Propaganda" - google with Edward Bernays for that story.

    Propaganda is a multi multi Billion dollar industry. Look there if you want to know who is meddling with our system.

    The idea that Putin is a significant power broker within the Establishment Big Money interests that run this nation - is a patent absurdity - comparing a snow flake to a blizzard.

    What is Putin's net worth ? Estimate run as high as 200 Billion. Roughly the power of Gates or Bezos - well no where near given the ability of the latter to use that money for influence in our process - but lets give equality on purely the basis of money.

    State Street Bank - its predecessor, Union Bank, was founded in 1792. State Street is ranked 15th on the list of largest banks in the United States by assets. It is one of the largest asset management companies in the world with US$2.511 trillion under management and US$31.62 trillion under custody and administration. It is the second largest custodian bank in the world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Street_Corporation

    Hole on here 31 Trillion - who's money is that ? Well - divide by 100 Billion we get 300. Who are these 300 people with 100 Billion that did not make it on the list of rich folks ?

    The real number is far less than 300 people - owning the bulk of that money. it is more like 30 Trillionairs.

    But wait - do the same search on Mellon The Bank of New York and Mellon Financial Corporation. It is the world's largest custodian bank and asset servicing company,[2][3][4] with $1.7 trillion in assets under management and $33.1 trillion in assets under custody as of December 2018.[1] BNY Mellon is incorporated in New York.[5]

    There is another 30 Trillionairs.

    Putin is small potatoes. If you want to know who influences our electoral process - follow the money.

    Who was it that bailed Trump out of his financial troubles ? Was it Putin !! ? Nope - OK - then who was it ?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Certainly by the Blue Establishment she is. Arguing contrary is like arguing that the earth is flat.
     
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  9. Frank

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    Tulsi is NOT being shunned.

    But if you want to think the Earth is flat...think it.
     
  10. US Conservative

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    Yes she is-especially since Hillary called her a russian asset.
     
  11. Frank

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    She is not being shunned.

    But if your happiness depends on insisting she is...go for it.

    Good for you to be happy.
     
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    Of course she is - and only a blind person does not see it. They Dem Establishment is calling her a Putin apologist - slandering he left right and center.


    Hillary Clinton suggests Russians are 'grooming' Tulsi Gabbard for third-party run
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/18/politics/hillary-clinton-tulsi-gabbard/index.html

    This line has been parroted by various pundits in the MSM.

    One has to have been living in a cave not to know this.
     
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    link to a poll or anything else that measures what Trump supporters beleive
     
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    That’s my opinion.
     
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    WalkAway Tulsi, walk away.
     
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    Ok I will take your opinion on this for what it is worth. the Dems and their allies who move the democratic nominating process forward are not going to remotely interested in your conclusion, because they are not impressed with the premise. They do not hold Trumpsters in such great esteem that they are asking themselves what that group thinks about their nominee, or which ones they 'fear'.
     
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    Inevitably, we'll see how that works out.
     
  18. Frank

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    If you want to think that anyone not agreeing with your opinions has been "living in a cave"...that is your right.

    It is the kind of thinking I've come to expect from some on the right.
     
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    I am not on the right... and it is not my fault that you have not heard Tulsi being slandered. This slander has been all over the news for many months.

    Regardless - if you had not heard this slander previously - you have now - and I posted a link - so quit living in denial.
     
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    Tulsi Gabbard is NOT being shunned...or anything close to it.
     
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    I just gave you evidence of Tulsi being shunned. Twirling around repeating "Tulsi is NOT being shunned" over and over does not prove this evidence false.
     
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    Tulsi is not being shunned.

    And an instance or two of some people showing they are not enamored of her...is truly not evidence that she is.
     
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    Another lie, Yang just qualified. Why can’t Tulsi?
     
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    It is more than an instance or two. and it wasn't just "some people" This was the figurehead of the Democratic Party.

    Hillary is not the only one.
    Elitist mainstream media outlets in the US tend to support regime-change wars. And that seems to be the driving force behind their hostility towards Gabbard.

    https://www.thecanary.co/us/us-anal...nly-smearing-anti-war-democrat-tulsi-gabbard/

    You are in denial
     
  25. Frank

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    Nah...I am in de Hudson.'

    If you want to think Tulsi is being shunned...think it.

    If you are going to post that Tulsi is being shunned...I am going to respond.
     

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