Turkey lifts veto on Finland, Sweden joining NATO, clearing path for expansion

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not sure about Sputnik .. .. with RT it depends on the issue .. obviously you are going to find a slant towards Vlad on Ukraine war topics .. but where else you going to go to get the other side of the story.

    In general RT is excellent . especially on issues related to the US .. a whole lot of news that is "not fit to print" in the US mainstream media ..

    but compared to CNN-Fox- not even comparable .. RT actually has news -- the others are National Enquirer News ... when not spouting state sponsored propaganda.
     
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    You just make silly and baseless assertions.
     
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    You forgot about Trump's diatribes as president about member NATO countries not paying their fair share.:roll:
     
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  4. Jeannette

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    Unlike us, Russia never makes idle threats, they consider it a weakness. What Russia does, is to give warning that there will be consequences. So it's not what Russia will say, but rather what they will do that's important.

    The nation most concerned over this is Greece, since giving in to Turkey's demands has empowered them even more so. For years they have been going further and further into Greek airspace and maritime borders and are now searching for oil and gas in Greek and Cypriot waters. They even went so far as to chase away Exxon Mobil as well as French Total.

    Turkey has also massed its forces and are making claims on the islands in the Aegean. So that even though idle threats are commonplace with them, this time it might be serious since Moscow has warned its tourists to stay away from the Anatolian coast from July 15 to the end of the month.

    Seems like WWIII is getting closer.


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    What happens on forums is you often get people who regurgitate what they heard on the mainstream media as though it was fact. So for instance and especially in the US which is so divided you’re almost in another civil war over your differences, you get two different types of news. Depending on the topic and left or right source, they often resemble two different news stories.

    This is where the sticking out of tongues comes from. It’s simply not having the knowledge to be able to arrive at a correct conclusion. I mean, if you believe Hillary Clinton held Satanic masses in the basement of the White House, or Trump is a Nazi, any conclusion after that is going to sound weird.

    So too with news in the outside world. How many have been following Ukraine for the past few years or even know where it is on a map, but suddenly know what’s been happening over there and why.

    Both the western media and Russian state sponsored ‘news’ are propaganda outlets and if you take either at 100% face value you’re going to sound odd. The answer is to look at them both and subtract the BS which most people can’t or won’t do. If Ukraine is losing every battle it fights, to say it’s actually winning sounds bizarre. If you believe Poland could walk straight into Belarus and take it over and Russia would just stand by and watch, that’s laughable. When you use preferred party politics to explain what’s going on it’s where the often nonsense opinions come from.
     
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    Hi Jeanette.

    I'm hoping soon you'll have some nice words for Turkey since they hold all the cards for Ukraine's proposed NATO bid.
     
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    Often they’re called facts which I explain and leave you with one liner replies. :lol:
     
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    One more thing here. Stoltenberg is a total idiot. One does not threaten the Bear without bringing down hell on earth.


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    "Destroyed bulk of Ukraine army"?....is that why Russki Western military district is totally destroyed?

    Why is Belarus being "cleaned out" of what munitions they have?

    Already "lost"??:)

    How so?...considering Ukraine is being NATO ized and a candidate EU applicant?

    Where's all the "pro Russian " support....considering its Russian speakers that are being targeted?.....:)
     
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    Turkey has dropped any further objections for Finland/Sweden yesterday.....membership is not far off....Ukraine is candidate EU status...once achieved....next is NATO.
     
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    Provide some links for your "facts".....verbal diarrhea doesn't count.
     
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    Lol....Poland COULD walk into Belarus and take what it wants....half of it is old Polish territory....:)

    Poland has 350k troops to full Nato standards....what's Belarus combat capabilities?....besides beating up unarmed protestors at rigged elections?:lol:
     
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    Well, then I guess UK is correct in saying Russia is a global threat that may need to be dealt with. It doesn't help Russia that they are talking about targeting London first. What a bunch of low-lives.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This happens to be one of the few topics most Americans and even the media agree with.
     
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    I don't often do 'links', I'm the source. You're the one liner. No doubt it will remain so. :)
     
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    It was always going to come to this and why both Russia and China have been investing heavily in technology and new weapon systems. Napoleon tried it, followed by Hitler and now it’s the turn of an aggressive NATO. What a waste of human life that many are cheering for.

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    ah...the KGB Mk1 response direct from the "Useful Idiots Guide for Internet Comments"

    mate....you should shut up as you have absolutely nothing sensible to contribute
     
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    This has been planned [think to how NATO works in reality].
    The three participants to the meeting knew that they had to leave the table with an agreement.
    This is why the meeting lasted for four hours.

    If there was no agreement among Turkey, Finland and Sweden ... the NATO meeting would have been a hell for Erdogan!
    But all NATO members [in Italy we knew it for sure already yesterday] were aware that Turkey was going to obtain what it was expecting.

    Being a moderator of a history forum, I can add that this is not the first time that "Ottomans" cooperate with "Vikings" ...
     
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    The statement that Russia will target the UK first is our governments threat that we could use nuclear weapons against Russia. Putin's reply was you'll be first to be hit. Seems fair to me.
     
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    I do the explanations, you do what you do best and stick to poster attacks.
     
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    Ohhh....you don't do "links".....I see....you're one of those....I saw it on a brick $hithouse wall...types.:))....great....expect similar responses....:)
     
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    Yes....we see the results of Russkis "new weapons" systems in Ukraine.

    Ukranian farmers will have quite a collection for auction sales.
     
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    And Russia will be leveled in 20 mins flat.
     
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    Nah, I'm just a lot clever than you and don't need the opinions of google.
     
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    And the UK 30 seconds later. Is that what you're cheering for?
     

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