Turkey Will Attack US Kurds In One Week If They Don't Withdraw

Trump told Erdogan they will not send arms to the Kurds, and two days later they sent 4,900 trucks and 2,000 planes packed with them. Just goes to show Washington can lie as much as they can. (I always wondered who taught who? )

Anyway Erdogan's had it. He threatens to attack Kurdish forces if they do not withdraw from Syria's Afrin and Manbij in one week. Of course Erdogan (like Washington), makes a lot of threats, but when it's against the Kurds it's usually serious since any Kurd area in Syria next to Turkey threatens their sovereignty. This time the Turks might even have the local Arab tribes with them, since the Kurds killed two of their members.

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan today said that his country might launch a military operation in Afrin and Manbij in northern Syria if the Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) do not withdraw.

" We will take the matter in our own hands until there are no terrorists left. They will see what we'll do in about a week," Erdogan said.

"If the terrorists in Afrin don't surrender we will tear them down," Erdoğan said.

The YPG are the Syrian branch of the Turkish Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) who are designated as a terrorist organization by not only Turkey, but also the United States. However, hypocritically, the United States directly supports, arms and funds the YPG. This is a major reason for tensions between Washington and Ankara.

"The U.S. sent 4,900 trucks of weapons in Syria. We know this. This is not what allies do," Erdoğan said. "We know they sent 2,000 planes full of weapons, he added.

Erdoğan has continuously said that he will not tolerate the formation of an independent Kurdish state on its border that can threaten to see eastern Turkey separate and join a new Kurdish state.​

http://www.fort-russ.com/2018/01/breaking-erdogan-threatens-kurdish.html

 

**** Erdogan. The Kurds don't have to back out of anything. The people of the Cantons chose their form of governance democratically and directly, and Erdogan simply hates the sight of a free Kurd. Erdogan aspires to fascism and one day he'll be dragged into the hague, tried, and shot for his bastardry.

 

The Kurdish lands actually are in Turkey and Iran. The oil and gas rich lands in Syria that the Kurds are claiming (with Washington's support of course), is populated by Arabs... not Kurds.

What Erdogan fears is a Kurdish state bordering Turkey, since it will arouse the Kurds in his own land. This doesn't mean that he and the Turkish people aren't without their own territorial ambitions... such as the restoration of the Ottoman Empire. Sultan Erdogan didn't build one of the greatest palaces in the world for no reason.

Turkey helped create the mess in Syria, with the hopes of grabbing Aleppo and the oil and gas rich areas. They are now in the hands of the Kurds thanks to Washington... but who knows for how long? Washington thinks it's forever and is sending embassy personnel there, so we will have to wait and see.

In the meantime the Syrian army keeps advancing ...

Keep Dreaming!
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I dunno. Those truck counts and plane counts seem to be unrealistic. Sounds way too high. You are talking about major numbers of arms here. More arms than people. LOL

 

How can one actually send 2,000 planes full of weapons?

 

The numbers make this sound like bullshit

 

It reads like hyperbole at best and fake news at worst.

 

According to the State Dept., the US is sending personnel to establish an embassy in what it hopes will be a Kurdistan, so maybe the planes weren't just carrying arms. They could have also been packed with dollar bills to bribe the people to support the Kurds. Who knows! Washington paid people in Ukraine to get them to protest, and they tried to do it in the Central Asian states... but were hindered by Russia.

The FSA led by the Israeli friendly Kurds, and supported by the US control over 1/3 of Syria east of the Euphrates. It's a land grab and theft of the oil and gas rich part of Syria. Not only has Washington and its allies destroyed Syria, but it also wants to leave the Syrian people without the means to rebuild.

 

Planes full of money? Gads.. What delusions. Is that from Sputnik?

 

The number are always inflated like Old Testament armies......

 

Uhhh, Margot aren't you the one who said that there weren't any foreign fighters in ISIS?

The Russian fighters are Islamist Takfiris from Chechnya, Dagestan, and the Central Asia Republics. This is why Russia said it preferred killing them in Syria, than having them enter the Federation.

 

What is the source of your data?

 

Back on topic:

Erdogan might have told the Kurd forces to leave Afrin and Manbij, but looks like they're going to take on the Turkish invading army in northern Syria. Yesterday the Turks began heavy artillery shelling of SDF held Afrin, and the American supported Kurds are getting ready to respond.

 

It's in front of your eyes Margot, it's the BBC.

 

Do you suppose the Soufan Group is in Syria counting rebels and interviewing ISIS ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Soufan

 

No.. Its the Soufan Group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Soufan

 

Funny that the Russians want the EU to pay to rebuild Syria. They must not have much confidence in Syria's "rich natural resources"......

 

That would make more sense, that more than arms and ammo, was involved. So, it looks like the US has no intention of stopping our meddling in the affairs of another nation. We just cannot help ourselves, in our feeling of entitlement. Looks like we want a balkanization of Syria, in order to keep assad's sovereign nation in tatters and conflict. I guess we hate stability. Unless we have a puppet in place, another vassal state of the empire.

One thing is certain. The US cannot solve the problems seen all over the middle east. The intelligent way forward is to stop meddling, stop the war mongering, and allow the middle east to solve its own problems, even if it involves them killing one another. Let the muddy water settle, and some sort of order replace the chaos. Hell, we cannot even solve our domestic problems and here we are thinking we can solve another nation's problem. Yet I am under no illusion that in the middle east were are not serving the American People proper with our neocon foreign policy, and yet someone is getting served, their self interests served, as Gen. Smedley Butler tried to inform the American Rubes, long ago. That, War is a Racket, in 99 percent of the times it is used by our gov't. If our wars only involved actual self defense, our last war would have been ww2. Ike saw directly what Gen. Butler had warned us about, and he saw where we were headed, due to a growing in power of the Military Industrial Complex. Today, it would be more accurate to call it the Military Industrial Intelligence Complex, given the exponential growth of intel agencies from the CIA collecting and analysing intel, in order that we not suffer another Pearl Harbor kind of event, who with other intel agencies have grown into powers which can even get at an elected President, 6 ways from Sunday as Schumer told us on national TV, warning trump that the CIA which was devised to report to the President now has the means and power to take down any president they want to.

That some of us here ignore that Schumer said, and are not alarmed by the revelation, is indicative of a mentality which cannot be depended upon to save our Constitutional Republic. All these kind of minds are concerned with, is if their party and candidate wins an election. I would think that this is the type of citizens you have that helps an empire to implode and go away. A part of the rot and decay that is necessary in order for an empire, a nation, to implode, collapse, or be blown off of the face of this earth.

 

The resources were stolen by Washington for their Kurdistan remember? It's the US that should be paying, but they don't believe in building anything, only in destroying.

 

What Syrian resources were stolen by Washington? Really? Asphalt quality crude oil? How did the US get it out of Syria?

Syria has always been in Russia's sphere of influence. Can't they afford to repair Syria? God knows they didn't get stuck with 6 million refugees in Russia.

 

And here's the latest. Seems like deja vu to me? Wasn't this going on before WWI?

This is from Washington:

The US-led coalition says it is helping to create a thousands-strong “Border Security Force” in Syria using Kurdish SDF militias.

The border force will be stationed along Kurdish-controlled parts of the Syrian border with Iraq and Turkey, as well as along the Euphrates River valley. It is estimated to reach a total strength of 30,000, according to the official.

“The base of the new force is essentially a realignment of approximately 15,000 members of the SDF to a new mission in the Border Security Force as their actions against ISIS [Islamic State] draw to a close,”

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Excuse me, but if the mission against ISIS is drawing to a close, then shouldn't the US be getting the hell out of Syria?

This is from Ankara:

“The US, providing support to the PKK’s Syrian branch, PYD-YPG, on the grounds of ‘fighting ISIS,’ is taking some worrying steps to legitimize this terrorist [group] and make it lasting in the region,”

“It is absolutely not possible for this to be accepted,” the official added, stressing that Turkey “will continue its fight against any terrorist organization regardless of its name and shape within and outside its borders.”
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And this is from Russia:

The plan to establish the unit has been also condemned by Russian officials, who claimed Washington is pursuing shadowy goals in the region. “

Creating such a “force” can help the Washington “to achieve their geopolitical goals, escalate tensions, and, probably, attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected president Bashar Assad,” the official stressed.​

 

It's all from RT. https://www.rt.com/news/415884-us-sdf-border-force/

 

Turkey is already attacking in Afrin, this is rubbish the west needs to make a stand. Clearly the Russian, Syrian, Turkish and Iranian alliance is incompetent when it comes to peace agreements. The US and their allies need to decide if they are going to stand by and watch this genocide or intervene and do it asap

 

The Turks have not been involved in a serious shooting war in decades.The Kurds have been in combat for a decade or so. I would not be too anxious to call the outcome of a Turkish attack. While they have the weapons the Kurds have the combat experience.