Turkish Air Force have made operation in Northern Iraq last night

And how many Kurds have been killed or oppressed by the Turkish government?

 

Merhaba! Medvedev is stupid and he is a liar, so his words mean nothing.

 

There's no mention of the PKK in that article. The only thing I know is that the Turkish soldiers have been cordoning off towns in Eastern Turkey so people won't know what's going on. Also that snipers were placed in at least one town and the people couldn't leave their homes for over a week...even for water.

A few years ago when some of the towns declared their independence, Carla Del Ponti of the UN said that gas was used on the Kurds...so one has to wonder why reporters are not allowed in?

When civilians are being killed, then it's terrorism. When it's combatants as it is in Eastern Turkey then it's not really terrorism. Maybe at one time the Kurds did use terrorism, I don't know, but I haven't seen anything today that I would consider terrorism.

What I have read is that in the previous war thirty thousand were killed. Two thousand were Turkish soldiers, and twenty eight thousand were Kurd civilians.

 

And Israel and Iran have a friendly history going back a few millenia. They still want to nuke each other.

 

I haven't come across any terrorists attacks by the Kurds, only attacks against Turkish soldiers after the towns in E. Turkey declared their independence. I have come across terrorist attacks against the Kurds in Turkey as well as pogroms, so I don't know why the PKK is considered a terrorist organization? Normally they would be called 'Freedom Fighters'.

 

Oh you are likly to get an education before that thought even crosses Erdugan

 

Nuke is the last weapon used not the first, Iran and Israel are not Turkey and Israel, no much love right now but the trade is booming, I also heard yesterday there is alot of pressure on Bibi from Knesset members to seal a deal with Turkey around the gas, making amends now while they are still shaky over Russia

Always some action around here, never boring

 

Israel has always been a friend, no matter what happens, period. A strong friend, business partner and an ally actually, since every year Israeli army comes to Turkish soil, to Konya area (the most conservative Turkish population living in and around Konya), conducting Air Force exercises with their bad ass jet fighters in the Turkish airspace, and in return they modernize certain Turkish made army vehicles. This by itself was enough to turn the whole Arab world against Turks. So something had to be done about it, since George W Bush stated back in 2004 that Turkey was chosen as a role model to the Arab world. Then both governments ended up creating a synthetic political tension in between to calm the Arab world. That's how I see it...

 

The best thing about turks is that they are turks first and foremost and muslims second. I.e. they have more of a european approach to religion.

 

Turkish Armed Forces do not kill Kurds. But it fights against terrorism for more than 30 years.
I can tell you how many PKK terrorists have been killed.
It is around 25.000. And not all of them are Kurdish. There are Arabs, Armenians, some Europeans in PKK.

 

We got zillions of mosques in Turkey, more than half of which have been empty as "abandoned", even during Friday prayers.

 

No.
Governments might want that but not the people for sure.

 

Like true europeans.

 

Then there is vast conspiracy of historians against Turkey to say that Kurds are being opressed in Turkey for a very long time. The conspiracy is so vast that even Erdogan has apologised for the Dersim Masscre which never happened off course.

 

The turks probably just foresaw what the future would be like. People used to do genocides all the time in history no big deal, but they sensed it was comming to an end, that it would no longer be okay to mass murder inconvenient peoples. They also sensed that the age of national self determination was comming. That meant the turks were in quite a pickle, since there were plenty of greeks, armenians and kurds in turkey, and that meant they would vote themselves away from turkey if given the chance. The turks realised the only way to keep their lands intact was to murder and/or deport them all. Quite frankly and cynically, it was very smart. That's what China is doing right now in tibet and xinjiang. When the people there are overwhelming han chinese, they will say "oh yeah, self-deremination, sure. Oh look, everyone there is chinese so they stay in china. How convenient "

 

You are talking about nationalists and Kemalists. Actually nationalist so MHP and Kemalists so CHP have so much in common, especially about Turkism racism. The current islamic AKP govt. is just the opposite. They are quite religious and they do not discriminates any groups or they do not talk wild about Turkism.

 

I do not think so, its just the opposite, mosques are filled over capacity especially in friday praying. Yes its empty in normal days because people usually prefer to pray in their homes. This also varies from neighborhood to neighborhood. Its normal to be empty for mosques in a CHP neighborhood. CHP supporters are mostly not Muslims.

 

The struggle of Kurds in the Turkey is not only thing of the past.

Prominent Kurdish Rights Lawyer Arrested in Turkey

 

In this video a Turkish Imam is trying to burn himself in Denizli province, where the "supposed" Islamic government had a staggering "45%" of the total votes in the latest elections 2015. The imam felt desperate about the community that they do not care going to mosques to pray !!!

[video=youtube;9zAV2nlChCQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zAV2nlChCQ[/video]

Now what were you saying about CHP neighborhoods again?

 

My friend.
Each subject must be discussed individually.
Seperatist Kurds and radical Islamists call it massacre but secular Turks call it defending our lands against Kurdish Radical Islamists who were backed by England.
And Erdogan's apologise might mean something for you but 50% of us even do not accept him to represent us.

 

I wouldn't say AKP is opposite to that, but it's both turkish nationalism plus islamism. I don't mind mild islamism. Turkey is a muslim nation, it's only natural that islam has a place in turkish politics. But not too much.

 

Dersim was in 1930s, but did Putin apologize for 400 kids he ordered the killings of by "TANK" shells, machine gun fires and grenades in Beslan?????

 

Just a word of advice for Turkish Air Force to be more careful. The S-400 is a nightmare and Putin is after blood.

 

MOD EDIT - Rule 3

Denizli city votes %45 AKP and %34 CHP.

Cal districh votes %42 CHP and %37 AKP

Also what kind of an imam would burn himself ? He is bluffing and trying to take attention. Probably another Gulenist terrorist.

 

You cant say because you have no idea about Turkish politics other than what your media imposes to you. Turkish intelligence chief and one of the most trusted person of president is a Kurdish person. This is a perfect example for AKP's sense of justice and equality.