Turks Give Kurds Ultimatum - No Further Or We Will Invade Syria

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  1. Yazverg

    Yazverg Well-Known Member

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    Of what is seen so far in our news - the fact that kurds would have at least an extended autonomy was one of the key agreements received from Assad before the decision to interfere into this conflict was made. Yes. There will definetely be a state-like organisation of kurdish people in the territory of former Syria. Personally I am 100% sure in it. However it is quite a question of what would happen the next with it. For the clash between Kurdistan and Turkey looks imminent.
     
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    Yazverg Well-Known Member

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    I read you have military experience... Kissing a$$es is not exactly a distinctive difference between an enemy and those who are not, ain't it?
     
  3. MMC

    MMC Well-Known Member

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    With alleged friends like the Saud and the Sunni.....who needs enemies.

    You did ask for one difference to tell them apart, and it is one difference, correct?
     
  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First of all I'm not Russian, but from what I have read Lavrov has been working on a new constitution with all the parties involved in Syria for five months now, and part of it has already been implemented in Damascus.. The Kurds say they want to federate within Syria, which is fine for the time being, although eventually they will want their own country. ..its only natural.

    In order for these problems to be solved with the Kurds they have to be part of the peace process and Turkey will not allow it.
     
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    Kurds got different friends.
    They got the Russians.


    Seems Turkey made a slight mistake with shooting down a Russian plane a while ago.
     
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    Well I didn't mean the Kurds despite that they follow the Sunni Doctine of Islam.....we should be giving them a helping hand. Especially with their taking back their homes and lands from the Arabization that Saddam committed upon them.

    Which doesn't count the Turks.

    Let the Turks see us move in and help defend the Kurds.

    It will certainly end Erdogans antics. Kind of like giving him a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) slap Right across his face. That which he deserves and should receive.
     
  7. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The major genocides and ethnic cleansing of Christians were preceded by other smaller ones, this is why there are Armenians all over the world...so your argument is mute.

    Here's a list of some of the massacres up until the year 1909 taken from the book: The Blight Of Asia, by Horton, the American Consul General of Smyrna. He has testimonies of the major massacres that occurred later on from Americans and Europeans living there. If Turkey really wanted to find out the truth, all they have to do is go into the American Library of Congress.

    The US was so fearful at the time that the Turks would start killing the thousands of Americans who worked at the charitable schools, hospitals and orphanages that served the Christian populations, that they refused to declare war on Turkey...even though Turkey was allied with Germany.



    Year Location Ethnicity Number

    1822 Chios Greeks 50,000
    1823 Missolongi Greeks 8,750
    1826 Constantinople Jannisaries 25,000
    1850 Mosul Assyrians 10,000
    1860 Lebanon Maronites 12,000
    1876 Bulgaria Bulgarians 14,700
    1877 Bayazid Armenians 1,400
    1879 Alashguerd Armenians 1,250
    1881 Alexandria Christians 2,000
    1892 Mosul Yezidies 3,500
    1894 Sassun Armenians 12,000
    1895-96 Armenia Armenians 150,000
    1896 Constantinople Armenians 9,570
    1896 Van Armenians 8,000
    1903-04 Macedonia Macedonians 14,667
    1904 Sassun Armenians 5,640

    Total 328,477

    To this must be added the massacre in the province of Adana in 1909, of thirty thousand Armenians


    http://www.pahh.com/horton/#ch1
     
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    The US was fearful? :roll:
     
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    I don't think Russia really cares about Syria's sovereignity per se. They care about maintaining their military base there, and having a friendly regime in Syria. If they manage to keep assad in power, he'll be grateful even if they give a chunk of his Syria to the kurds. And if they let the kurds ahve their own country, they would of course be very good friends to the russians. Plus helping the kurds would make turkey mad. So it seems like a good move for Russia.
     
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    check the news.
    you are not funny by the way.
     
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    When I read your very long comments I felt myself as if I am reading the comments of an Erdogan fanatic.
    But you are not an Erdogan fanatic.
    Putin and Obama wants to start a war since from the beginning of this Syrian issue.
    That is the summary of all story.
     
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    I do every day.....considering I work in the Industry.

    Awww.....you don't like Turkey getting picked on, huh? Oh well.....it is something that the Turks will have to get use to for their future. [​IMG]
     
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    "us"... let me remind you Turkey is a NATO member.
     
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    we are not a very young nation like yours man. take it easy. we are as old as Chinese.
    relax.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes the US was fearful for the lives of the thousands of American charity workers in Anatolia. They didn't want them to suffer the same fate as the Armenians and Greeks. At the time there were British, French, American and Italian ships sitting in the harbor at Smyrna (Izmir), yet when the Turkish army set fire to the Armenian section to cover up the massacres and it spread throughout the city, hundreds of thousands of people were massed at the docks. Whoever managed to swim to the ships without being shot, wasn't allowed to board because of political reasons.

    The people survived because of the wits of an American worker at the YMCA. He convinced the Greek navy to make him an admiral and to put the ships under an American flag so they wouldn't be confiscated. He became quite a hero...and the American sailors were able to help and protect the people because of our neutrality. We were a different country then...



    [video=youtube;hLOCpyzMgps]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLOCpyzMgps[/video]
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where are the Turks? Sorry but I can't see them?


    Persian Empire - 500 BC
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    Greek/Athenian Empire - 450 BC

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    Greek Conquests under Alexander - 300 BC
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    Eastern Roman Empire under Justinian (Latin speaking) - 500 AD

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    Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine - Greek speaking) 1045 AD

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    You are looking in the wrong place jeanette. Turks lived in central asia before they came to asia minor. Turks do indeed have a long history, but much of it didn't happen in modern day Turkey. Turks have only been in asia minor for about a thousand years.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure the Turkish tribes were around for a long time, but their civilization in Anatolia was taken from the Byzantines and Persians... who themselves took from one another. I was amazed after reading a book by an Englishman on Iran how similar they were to the Greeks.
     
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    Oh even better.....out with the old, and in with the new. That might just work. :smile:
     
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    percy sykes' history of persia? I'm thinking of reading that too. it's on my to-read list.

    "taken from" is misleading. Anatolian turkish culture isn't persian or byzantine, but it has strong influences from them. it is a blend of greek, persian, arabic, and of course turkish. But it is a distinct culture, this anatolian-ottoman-turkish culture.
     

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