Turnbull, Ghani sign Afghan agreement

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  1. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    Ok then, if it is too much for some to discuss national topics let us look at international topics.
    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/turnbull-ghani-sign-afghan-agreement/news-story/96736932a6ee984c2e418bdd13ae5377
    Well now, by the looks if this we could be seeing a first. Has Australia learned from its failures of the past. One would have to wonder, if Australia came to the aid of Afghanistan so many years ago when the nation was left to its own resources after the US funded war with Russia, would 9/11 ever have happened??? Maybe just pie in the sky but at least we can try.

    I wonder if the Greens support this or is it going to be another hypocritical display by them such as the oil for food debacle. Will be interesting to see if there is greater movement for the better within the nation and just how much change will come about.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting topic but Australia wasn't then, by any stretch of the imagination and still not now a super power. That war was well well above our pay grade as a nation or any involvement for that matter.

    America apparently provides billions in aid to Afghan.

    In any instance our involvement positively is a plus.
     
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    This purported 'aid' is an act of corruption that will be a pay-off to the ruling classes of Affghanistan for the acceptance of the return of failed asylum seekers.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are there ramifications for stating this in the agreement? Why wouldn't they just be open regarding arrangement if it was the case?

    My thinking is that they are an important western ally in the region, which has obviously been a breeding ground for terrorists, so in our best interest to contribute to helping bring stability in area. There could be other reasons but this seems like most obvious as far as I'm concerned!
     
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    Best way of reducing illegal immigration is to improve conditions at home for the immigrants so they do not WANT to leave.

    Also - look you lot KNOW me I am a real "make love not war' girl and I would rather 100% see Australia involved in nation building than in war related activities

    But remember Bali - after 9/11 America declared war on two different countries at once - wars that simmer to this day. After Bali we gave Indonesia every bit of help they needed to get the perpetrators and then built them a hospital. Result Indonesia might get shirty with us at times but underlying they still have a solid good relationship with us
     
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    Let us put it this way - who is more likely to be a target of a terror attack

    The country dropping bombs and sending drones or the country that helped your cousins Hasim get a job building a soccer ground?
     
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    So far, it is not the country dropping bombs and sending drones.
     
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    This is not about immigration and about war, but about the fact Australian's want to hide from their own culpability on such things. So often we see on these pages how people want to condemn others for supporting such actions that defends nation and life yet refuse to accept any responsibility their actions and intentions have.


    Previously the express refusal of such human rights groups such as the Greens to support other nations decimated by wars or revolutions simply because they do not agree with what has occurred has led to such actions as 9/11 and other terrorism and yet when they happen out of the wood work they come to condemn everybody else for such. The hypocrisy is astounding.



    Do we have example??? Yes, Afghanistan is perfect by ignoring the nation to the great support of these humanitarian groups allowed such terrorist groups to get the leadership of the nation. When the nation has nothing they will turn to what is left.



    Maybe this effort will prevent a future war maybe it won’t but trying something new such as supporting the regime they have will be better than just ignoring it, leaving it to wallow in despair.
     

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