Twisting Scripture: The lies of Homosexuality.

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  1. Skruddgemire

    Skruddgemire Well-Known Member

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    Painfully aware...hence my sarcastic tone.
     
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    Like this; "homosexuality isn't a sin."

    like eating the breakfast isn't to send or driving to work isn't a sin I said lots of things aren't sins.
     
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    Honestly if we're talking about Christianity no you never beg a priest for anything. They can't forgive you anyway.
     
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    that's incorrect. Without the concept of sin there just isn't any Eternal damnation.
     
  5. Skruddgemire

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    While the Catholic Church does suggest prayer on one's own, they're holding on the reins when it comes to...well anything. You can't just pray to God and say "Yeah...I did a naughty thing" and that's that...you have to go to confession. You want to get into heaven when you die...there's last rites. And those are better done while you're alive rather than dead.
     
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    Being a convert to catholicism and now a lapsed catholic I never got the impression that confession was necessary. Though the catholics have an odd set of beliefs which i do not agree with, i never knew confessing to be mandatory. Though being a convert i didn't receive the kool-aid in the womb. So perhaps I'm missing something
     
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    Confession was never...mandatory. But they heavily stressed that it was a very good idea...if you wanted to remain in God's good graces. Now I don't know if it was universal or just the way that my priest was "teaching" us...but the attitude that the only way I could have a connection to God was through him was the primary reason that I too am a lapsed Catholic.
     
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    No it wasn't stressed or even mentioned in my church. But yes you're salvation is highly dependant on the church structure.b in fact simply not attending is considered sinful on the catholic church.
     
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    Confession specifically to a "Priest" was never mandatory.

    James 5:
    16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

    King James Version (KJV)

     
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    Regardless of what the Bible dictates...you have to remember that various faiths follow the same book but in differing ways. Sometimes even different churches within the same denomination will preach different things.

    The way I was brought up with the priest I had in my local Catholic Church...it was stressed that if I ever wanted God to take me seriously, I had to involve the Priest as a middle-man between God and myself.

    You can quote scripture at me all you wish, it does not alter the fact that my experiences with my particular church were what they were.
     
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    No.
    Because in ancient times, men performed those tasks too.
    Refference Essau vs Jacob, Essau was very hairy and a mighty hunter, Jacob was smooth, and not very apt at hunting, and a home body.
    Jacob was loved and approved by G-d, Essau was hated.....

    Romans 9: 9-13 KJV

    9For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sara shall have a son. 10And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; 11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth 12It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. 13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
     
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    I made a general comment, it was not directed at you, I am very sorry if I gave you that impression.

    Salvation is a deal between G-d and an individual, there is only one go between, between an individual and the creator, that is Jesus, he only can forgive sins and act as intercessor.

    No man can do this for anyone.

    Doctrines are false when they deviate from scripture.

    Hence Martin Luther and the Protestant reform,
    Originally a Catholic Priest, he came to realize that much doctrine practiced was false and not scripturally based.
     
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    So, why are you censoring the word "God" in your posts?

    And you might want to read Genesis 33:1-20. Rather looked like God wasn't too filled with hatred of Esau and his people.
     

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