Two female prisoners fall pregnant after having sex with transgender inmate

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  1. MJ Davies

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    Full title: Two female prisoners fall pregnant after having sex with transgender inmate

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    Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/two-female-prisoners-fall-pregnant-26720357


    In summary, the ACLU filed a lawsuit after complaints of transgender inmates being abused in male prisons. As a result, this inmate, Minor, was transferred to a female prison where he engaged in consensual sexual relationships with two female prisoners. Now, both women are pregnant.

    Of course, this brings up the debate about what needs to be done to ensure the safety of prisoners while incarcerated but not create additional problems when situations like this arise.

    Maybe the law can be such that a transgender person can only be moved to another prison if they are not capable of becoming or causing to become pregnant anyone at the other facility.

    For instance...

    for males: sterile, irreversible vasectomy, etc.
    for females: barren, post-menopausal, irreversible tubal ligation, etc.

    On the surface, I would exclude hormonal treatments since those could be stopped voluntarily or involuntarily and the dilemma would still exist.

    Before we delve into this, it's NOT about all the drama about if transgenderism is a mental disorder or people are faking it. This thread is about the law saying that we have to keep inmates relatively safe while incarcerated. According to the article and the inmate, neither of these women were sexually assaulted so, at this time, it does not appear their safety is in question but let's look at that if you'd like.

    What ideas do you have to address this?
     
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    Provide free condoms.
     
  3. kazenatsu

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    Sounds like a typical progressive idea.

    Put a man in a woman's prison because he identifies as a woman. Oops! Now there's a problem with pregnancies. Proposed solution: Hand out free condoms to all of them!

    I suppose next you'll be demanding we hand out free diaphragms to them, in case the condom might take away their pleasurable experience, or in case some of them might not be willing to use a condom.

    And then Planned Parenthood will set up a little corner office inside every prison.
    (Bet they'd be thrilled with that lucrative government contract!)
     
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    About the only solution is to put them into protective custody.
    Which they have two types of.... There are open PM units for all of the inmates exist in a dormitory much like regular prison except they are placed there after a review in front of a prison board.

    In which case that problem could still easily exist.

    Then there is protective custody that is confinement also known as administrative confinement. This is isolation and it could easily be argued that it would be unconstitutional.

    But in such a case it's hard to engage in sexual activity in a cell by yourself.... At least with anyone else.
     
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    Have the women identify as not pregnant. Problem solved I'm told
     
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    And the solution is what it's always been. Men go in male prisons. This guy would just be a **** toy to some gang higher up. Oh well?
     
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    And Planned Parenthood will give them a "little medical surgical procedure" to make the outside of their body "conform" to the way they "feel" on the inside.
     
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    Or just put them into a separate wing of the prison, but then progressives would totally oppose that because that would defeat the whole point of putting them in women's prisons in the first place and would be "treating them differently".

    "Discriminating" and not respecting the claim of their gender identity.
    Treating them like something other than what they claim to be.
    It would pop the bubble of their fantasy.

    You can totally imagine what would happen if they created a separate prison for them. The media would be screaming "Segregation!"
     
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    It's an example of a delusion meeting reality and the conflict that it creates.

    It has an easy solution though. Make the inmate strip naked like is already common inspect their junk and send them to the prison that corresponds with their junk
     
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    What if they have horrible scar tissue down there and everything is all mutilated, and things look like they were sewn & stitched together to try to look kind of like one thing but it doesn't look quite right?
     
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    Whatever they started life with
     
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    Some of them are so mutilated and ambiguous intersex looking it could be hard to tell.

    I think your idea has some serious limitations.
     
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    Do you have a better suggestion?
    If you make separate facilities you would have to make a facility for those who identify as male and those who identify as female.

    A horrendously large burden upon the taxpayer, prison system's already being a drain enough
     
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    Why do women need to be made safe from other women?

    It sounds like, judging by the cases at far, it's not so much about safety but ( infant) child welfare. I see vasectomy as the only solution for biological males seeking to enter female prisons. We don't see a spate of transgender women lining up at male prisons to have sex (female prison guards have that base covered) so probably not an issue worth working about.
     
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    Are you joking? This has been the situation in prisons for a long time.

    (Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying)
     
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    Well I'm more proposing we just bend reality based on our feelings. That's how progressives do it, no? Pregnancy is just a social construct. Nobody was pregnant until we labelled them as pregnant.
     
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    Careful, I know you're being obviously satirical, but it would be a lot easier than you think to be able to convince a lot of them of that.
    It would totally fit with all their modern trendy progressive views. (You don't think they'd embrace something that could further help justify abortion in their minds?)
     
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    They've gone so completely off of the deep end that at this point I'm not scared of shoe horning them into any idiotic stance. As a matter of fact, the more insane the direction the faster we get out of this dipshit woke direction.
     

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