U.S. Can Do NOTHING For Climate Change - John Kerry

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    This is SUCH an important video, first provided courtesy of JestSayin, that I am crediting him and giving it a separate thread here in Science. It was first posted in Current Events, but needs to be emphasized for the Climate Change Sharia crowd. Maybe they will listen to one of their own, especially when he is sooo wealthy... by marriage.... twice.....

     
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    Seventeen views, and not one single scream or rant from a Climate Change Sharia *rag tetes*.
    If this had been President Trump speaking instead of a card-carrying Leftist, the Sharia rag tetes would have claiming ignorance and lies of the highest order. But since it is one of their own, they are speechless. What a rare treat!
     
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    He might be right. But, I don't really care because I find the politics of climate change mostly uninteresting.
     
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    Why would there be? If you look at the whole speech, he's not using the information he presents to weasel out of the US' climate goals (at the time).

    That much of the pollution comes from the developing world is no surprising revelation. However, it is basically impossible to impose restrictions on their use of fossil fuels if we don't also apply them to ourselves. It will just look like the industrial world is trying to impose an unfair advantage on the developing world, and the developing won't follow it.
     
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    Oh well. So we just say [smurf] it and just lay down and wait for it all to end eh?
     
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    What do you think of the Carl Cantrell theory?

    It sure fits with predictions made in Isaiah 35.


    Carl Cantrell.
     
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    Two to 4.3 trillion dollars US entering the market.......
    might just inspire humanity to come up with a plan that
    could put all that money to good use..... instead of just allowing it to
    cause hyper-inflation in the USA and devalue the dollar.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/jamie-baillie-nova-scotia-israel-and-jordan.506627/



     
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    First, the Climate Change Sharia is a hoax perpetrated by socialists, politicians, and affirmed by greedy, unscrupulous academics who rake in hundreds of billions of dollars for *research* which always reaffirms what they want it to - climate change hysterics and more research money flowing.

    Second, you can't do anything, be it building windmills, or solar farms, or reclaiming vast deserts, without burning huge amounts of fossil fuels.

    Finally, the poor people in China, India, and Africa in particular, are trying to scratch out meager existences, and couldn't care less about carbon dioxide nonsense. They will always burn wood, coal, dung, and anything else to cook their food and warm their hovels. Pretentious Leftists want to feel good about themselves and buy Prius' and Teslas, claiming they are "zero emission vehicles." They take "ecotours" which is of course a one-word oxymoron.

    Insanity prevails among the Left.
     
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    The proposed Petra Project could have seven to twenty one hydro electric generation facilities on the
    proposed seventy kilometer nine meter wide tunnel that could take in the range of two hundred million
    cubic meters of ocean water from the Mediterranean near Tel Aviv to the area of the Dead Sea annually.

    This can work because the tunnels will be taking the water down about 1400 feet.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...stinians-and-israel-do-you-see-errors.459317/

    The Petra Plan for Jordan, The Palestinians and Israel... do you see errors?


    ......

    Isaiah 35:1


    The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
    ......
    Isa 35:6

    Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.

    I have never advocated a carbon tax......
    not even in my 2008 primary campaign writing......

    www.BankingSystemsFlaws.blogspot.ca/
     
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    Environmentalists would scream blood murder if we changed the deserts into forests.
     
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    Yes...... environmentalists have already stopped several well planned and well financed
    plans to desalinate ocean water on a large scale for California and Nevada.
     
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    Climate Change Joke
     

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    The problem with the faithful is that, well, they are faithful. The absence of other faith is replaced with their desire to crusade for AGW. The faithful prove the point that the masses can be effectively controlled through the articulation of the grand apocalyptic future they face absent their faith.
     
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    Was it Alexander Solzhenytsen who said "Those who will not believe in God will believe in anything."
     
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    I admit that lawyers and bureaucrats with a background in environment science got hold of the economic potential of a carbon tax and they were off and running to make millions and billions of dollars off the plan, and yes........

    ..... they definitely want to use bureaucracy and legislation to alter the lifestyle of us "deplorables' but............. that does not mean that the Carl Cantrell Theory is a bad one.........
    it does fit very well with Isaiah 35 and..... Matthew 24 predicts earthquakes and volcanoes in various places........... so an earth quake, volcano or tsunami hitting the West Antarctic Ice Sheet would cause rising ocean levels........

    so planning and implementing deliberate turning of deserts green truly is a win - win - win - win response to the threat of rising ocean levels....... .and would have the added benefit of eating up significant amounts of atmospheric CO2...... which would tend to pacify the political left.........

    That being of light who reviewed his life with former Atheist Howard Storm........ was that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus keeping his promise to, in the future, speak plainly of the Father...... or was it the Devil appearing as an angel of light?

    Does President Trump have some sort of Cyrus calling on his life, and Presidency, or not?

    I believe that G-d wishes to use America to unite the world in projects that will save millions......... frankly billion of lives..... in comparison to what happens if we do not plan well for the probable future.


    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04
     
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    I wonder if you realize we do apply them to ourselves, and China is going to be overtaking our economy soon.

    What's their excuse again?

    Frickin France pollutes more than we do.

    Hm.
     
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    There is something the US can do - develop adaptive technology and change the environmental laws to allow for human necessary project desalination plants, pipelines to move water around the country, hydroponic and low water use farming, genetically modified foods and frankly we need to stop supporting people who live in at risk areas so they move from these locations with a simple policy no FEMA support in zones that are frequently at risk of flooding due to sea level rise and no more flood insurance. Exceptions can be made for ocean industries, tourism to some degree and vital needs (but I would not rebuild hotels on sand bars and hotels over say two stories and very basic). But its madness to assume most coastal cities and areas can be safe New York City might need to abandon the coast and move new living areas inland or be abandoned fully and all those people moved to other cities. We should focus on taking care of our own the poor nations will just have to be sacrificed to their fates.
     
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    But the nation of Israel can..........
    and they have proven it to be true......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ump-has-a-4-3-trillion-dollar-problem.531929/



    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/534996/megascale-desalination/

    Megascale Desalination
    The world’s largest and cheapest reverse-osmosis desalination plant is up and running in Israel.

     
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    Kerry is correct in that the United States cannot do anything. The world leadership cannot even agree there is a problem, let alone a way to deal with it and we here in the U.S are no better. Besides, all indications are that tipping points for Ocean albedo and atmospheric chemicals as well as permafrost/sediment release of methane have already been crossed so it is what it is....whether you believe it or not...I just don't care anymore as I will die before it gets bad.
     
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    Deep and wise. Thank you Friend.
     
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    I disagree.... I believe that the USA can use Israeli technology to begin to fulfill Isaiah chapter thirty five as well as an ancient Islamic prediction for the "Last Hour"... (this is the way that Muslims name the Latter days of Christian apocalyptic thought)!

    More information here:


    Beginning especially back in 1990 after my dad passed on I went through a
    serious philosophical / theological crisis... and I begged the G-d of Abraham / HaShem for wisdom and
    understanding......... I was soon led to see error after error after error after error in my beliefs..........

    I now know that I really know nothing about essentially anything... in spite of the fact that I can refer to various schools of thought or theories on quite a few topics if I am asked.......
     
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    You are absolute correct.... which is why i am advocating.....IGNORING THEM......
     
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    Here's your problem:

    If we stop using fossil fuels, the bottom will drop out of the price and the 3rd world will just use them to create even worse pollution.

    There is no drastic reduction in pollution without a drastic reduction in global population.
     
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    Climate change is real. The climate let alone temperatures have been changing for billions of years and will change for billions more. Is it man-made? No. Only loons believe that.

    Do we affect it? To a degree, yes. The slight increase in temperature is proof of that. However keep in mind, we are coming out of an ice age and fluctuations in temperatures will occur, even with or without our "help".
    [​IMG]

    I am however a lot more concerned about the ecosystems that are a whole lot more fragile than the planet itself, as the planet itself will survive. Hell, it's survived two nukes just fine. A hundred more won't even put a dent in it. The only thing that's a threat to the planet itself is either a planet/planetoid or an asteroid of significant enough size to either destroy the planet or make life unable to survive on the planet due to the rapid change in everything from temperature to humidity to breathable air.

    What I find annoying as hell and have a rather huge boon with however is the degree of urgency made by the climate change lunatics running around.

    "THE WORLD WILL END IN 2000!"
    >Year 2000 comes around, jack sh*t happens
    "THE WORLD WILL END IN 2008!"
    >Year 2008 comes around, boom, yet nothing happens
    "THE WORLD WILL END IN 2012, SURELY!"
    >Nope
    >Present day
    >Alexandria Ocrazy-Cortez: "THE WORLD WILL END IN 12 YEARS UNLESS WE DO SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE BY ANY STANDARD LET ALONE PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE BY REDESIGNING EVERY HOUSE IN AMERICA IN 4 YEARS(which means around 1,000 buildings a DAY if this "Green Loon New Deal" actually got through)"

    Do we need to take care of the environment? Yes, you bet your ass we do.
    Do we need to cripple economies, infrastructures and our very civilization just to save a damn bush? No, we don't.

    You can't stop the climate from changing. May as well try to stop the sun from burning fuel at millions of degrees C in its core.
     
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    No One can do anything anymore, too late.
     

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