U.S. Church Membership Falls Below Majority for First Time

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    This belongs in the conspiracy section.
     
  2. Josh77

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    This correction of previous versions is still going on today. Seems like the world needs it every couple thousand years as the institutions of man corrupt and take advantage of teachings. I find a lot of inspiration in the Bible and other old texts, but also a lot in other channeled works like the “the Seth material”, “a course in miracles”, and “the law of one”. I don’t see why people from 2000 years ago, or strictly from Abrahamic sources should have a monopoly on channeling higher beings, lol. God, or whatever you want to call it, is god for everyone, not a select group, or even a select planet.
     
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    Yet, you don't think it's morally reprehensible for you to call Michelle a transvestite? The Constitution is being destroyed by the people that think they have the right to tell others how to live, when they should give birth, who they can love and to "stay in their place" regardless of party affiliation.
     
  4. Josh77

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    yup. I think gods ultimate ideals are free will and universal love. The real “sins”are infringing on the free will of others and not loving your fellow humans, and all of creation.
     
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    It's not mysterious why church membership has dropped. Evangelicals like to trot out Trump as the consummate Christian who will reinvigorate the church while ignoring he cheated on his wife numerous times and stolen money from small businesses.
     
  6. HockeyDad

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    Not exactly, they have transitioned from church to the church of woke. Critical theory is the new religion and the fruit it will bear in few decades could be the biggest bloodbath in human history.

    This is the new religion....
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    It cannot be bargained with, it does not do logic, it holds all the levers of power and it absolutely positively will not stop. It is as puritanical as the witch hunters from America's past and just as pitiless and morally self-righteous. There is NO REDEMPTION with this new religion, NONE. You do not just get excised from the church when you are kicked out, your career and reputation are also completely annihilated. This is the fastest growing and most dangerous religion in world history.
     
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    I would argue bigotry is more of a moral perversion that something that is natural (homosexuality) or attempts to treat a medical condition (gender dysphoria) but we all have our own definition of what is moral. Mine is harm reduction — what is yours derived from besides made up and cherry picked religious passages?

    I will agree with selfish pride just from many peoples response to being asked to wear a mask to protect others.

    As to individual liberty, I guess you have a point if you exclude numerous wars and genocide of Native Americans, Internment of Japanese Americans... oh, and slavery. Again, we must have different definitions of liberty.

    Your “complete breakdown of society” sure seems an awfully lot like white christian men have lost control of the nation but everyone else has more rights. Strange how that works...
     
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    Its not a very popular one though. Just loud. About on par with the Westboro Baptist freaks. Most folks leaving church are just going home and having solo or small group worship/study instead. Probably with snacks and alcohol ;)
     
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    I am never surprised when the highly religious are also conspiracy theorists — blind faith, in the absence of fact are involved in both.

    Stuff like what you post here is another reason some have abandoned religious preferences, it has gone in a strange direction...
     
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    Um..... the white billionaires are controlling everything... arguably white elites have more power now than they have ever had. They don't want a white nation necessarily, they want a compliant nation. These white elites are importing the 3rd world in every white western nation on the planet. The destruction of traditional values is coming from the elites, the erosion of human rights is coming from the elites and the identity politics is coming from the elites. America will be like Mexico or Brazil, much of Europe will be like Turkey and China will be hegemonic. America's test scores have dropped from the best in the world to 2nd world in my lifetime.... this is a reflection of the demographic change that has occurred and the demographic potential of our youngest generation (not 1st world tier). I compare those test scores to China, the absolute support of the Chinese people for their government, China now obliterating America in IP generation and manufacturing and I realize the game is already over. Our elites have failed their people worse than any other elites in human history.
     
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    What do you think could be done to control these “wealthy white elites”? The only thing I can think of is major tax increases — if you believe they are the cause of this how are you a Republican as their desire is only to further increase their wealth and power...
     
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    I think not voting for a wealthy elite billionaire would be a good start.
     
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    In the long run maybe science wins out over myths, legends, and fairy tales.
     
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    When was the last time God came down and did anything about anything that was harming his children? Stop a war. Stop a pandemic. Stop hunger.
     
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    Question: How do we know the Bible is the word of God.

    Answer: The Bible says so.

    Ever hear of a circular logic fallacy?

    How can you demonstrate your testimony is not a voice in your head generated by your own brain?

    Well there is one way I guess to demonstrate your testimony is real. I am looking at the serial number on the back of an Amazon card. If you can respond with the 16 digit number I will attest that you have really talked to God.
     
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    I find it curious that with all the revelations from God, he never passed on any basic scientific information such as the germ theory.

    Well, actually it is not curious at all.
     
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    This trend has been noticed for decades. Church attendance has declined ( frequency of actually going) consistently for decades. More places of business open on Sundays. A more mobile society where people pick up roots to travel for employment. Fewer young people being called to ministry as pastors, priests nuns etc. The growth of the radio religious service then televangelism, the impact of evolutionary science on the creation myth. the sexual revolution/ 60's divided us by generation and values, globalization created new demands on our labor time / free time. The technological revolution and the internet. All this has turned our houses of worship into a senior center with thoughts and prayers. . The pandemic has broken it further .

    What all this means is that this market has died off for traditional religious communing. The message is dated, the sales pitch is ineffective and the product - it needs a huge makeover if expects to survive fifty years.

    Religion is just not very competitive in market of ideas anymore.

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    Sure and those Godless communist regimes were paradise...... the world is much better off with Christianity than without it.
     
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    It isn't competitive in the market of bad ideas.
     
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    It better learn to try to compete or its toast. I don't see any real effort on the part of the major religions. I am predicting 'toast' in the industrialized and western world.

    Maybe something radically different in message, purpose and style will come along that will
     
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    Islam is the fastest growing religion in the Western world and it is impacting the world dramatically. In Britain last week, a British school teacher lost his job and had to be whisked off by the British police to avoid being murdered because he showed a picture of Mohammed to demonstrate blasphemy. The school principal apologized in a video that resembled a hostage video. This is a religion exerting a real and palpable power and gaining powerful and meaningful influence over a society. The liberal west is kind of toast, they are subverting and destroying their fundamental freedoms to appease an authoritarian ideology that the elites imported (most likely for this express purpose). So if you are in Europe, give yourself a pat on the back for destroying your own heritage and prepare for a future similar to the Middle East.

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    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...-muhammad-caricatures-after-teacher-suspended

    Ask yourself why Joe was so eager to import Muslims from radicalized Islamic countries. I believe the story above is your answer. It is the most effective method of subverting traditional Western values and causing severe societal divisions which can be used as pretext for increasing state power at the expense of human rights.

    It is hilarious to me that you think you are winning when never in European history have they been losing so hard.... they are in the process of losing their ancestral homelands without their enemies needing to fight a war. Islam may need white liberals now, at some point in the future they will not and that is when real suffering on that continent will return.
     
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    :roflol:

    You misspelled NEUROSES!

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    @HockeyDad We had a teacher beheaded in France because of that.
    A whole part of the left was accomplice with that, they basically hold the feet when the terrorist was cutting the head. The only comfort I have in the situation is that they will pay one day for that, either by the hand of their new allies or in another way.
     
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    What started out thousands of years ago as a way of describing the world around them became what we know today as religion. Sun goes away and comes back, we must be lucky. Rains come and go, we must be lucky. Rains never come, we did something wrong. Mountain explodes in fire and lava, something is mad at us. Earth shakes and topples mountains, earth must be angry. Life is good, we must be good. Life is hard, we must be bad then. You name it, someone in the past has attributed a God or supernatural explanation or root cause. One by one each of them were explained by man, reason and science. Sooner or later the last remnants of religion will isolate it
    So in your view, the new religion is about people caring about each other and trying very hard to walk a mile in the others shoes? There was a sermon written by an anonymous author about 2000 years ago that mentioned this idea, it became known as the Sermon on the Mount.
     
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    I have never been a church goer, but being on shift work and working every other Saturday, Sunday and Wednesday would be a slight hindrance. Most people I know around where I live are on shift, or work jobs that would conflict periodically during the month with attendance.
     

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