U.S. Death Toll Tops 250,000

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  1. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    I never referred to COVID. Go lay down.

    Running 35 cycles and beyond gives garbage results.
     
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    Yes.
    Clinical cases should be detected with much fewer cycles. If you have to run more thsn 35 to detect something, the tesults are meaningless.
    We run 40 in this country
     
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    You sure about that brah?

    Last 2 days:
    Florida: 109
    New York: 114

    New York is passing Florida as we speak. Any more moralizing that you want to do? It will be nice to bring it up in a month or so when New York far surpasses Florida. Apparently you are unfamiliar with how winter works. Maybe the "experts" will let you know.
     
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    Where is your retraction?

    Admit that your statistics were wrong, and then we can take it from there.
     
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    errors get amplified with each cycle. If they have to run >35 of cycles just to see something, they're just seeing junk.
    Additionally the PCR probe sequences have significant overlap with many human, viral and bacterial genome sequences.
     
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    That is the simple truth, but way over the head of the average worshiper in TCOPM. Orthodoxy drives the masses, not science.
     
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    >90,000 daily hospitalizations. >2000 daily deaths. But, sure, you have to talk about PCR tests being too sensitive? You guys are a hoot.
     
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    Claiming that conclusions reached and decisions made based upon a bogus test are proper and rational is a sign of the times. Mass hysteria rules today.
     
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    Actually his post brought up a good point
    "Clearly" the cases are only up because they are doing more testing
    Deaths are only up because the states are doing more testing for pulses
    If the states stop reporting the deaths, then the deathcount is zero
     
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    Testing is what causes Covid. I guess that's the best they can do. Defend Trump at all costs. Even at the cost of making fools of themselves.
     
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    Testing with a bogus test is what causes the Covid Crisis, at least it is the foundation of the Covid Crisis.

    That "crisis" has been caused by Fauci and Friends. Fear-mongering 24/7/360 by the mainstream media.
     
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    The idiotic statements that originate in Trump's arsenal of misinformation is one of the main things that make Trump responsible for tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths.

    This type of statements coming from Trump are immoral and dangerous B.S. and should be denounced as such by every moral human being. Serious companies like Tweeter, Facebook.. and similar, would immediately remove such statements and possibly ban whoever spreads such dangerous lies. Because they do cost lives.

    Most people will immediately spot Trump's hand in it, because they know that hundreds of thousands of dead people in this country and over a million in the world cannot be caused by a "test" or by Fauci. But there still a few gullible and uneducated people out there who might read it and actually believe it.
     
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    Golem

    You and I might have an adult and rational discussion about the public health angles of Covid, but you keep inserting Trump into the conversation, and that tells me you are likely unable to have rational discussion about Covid.
     
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    Positive SARS-COV-2 PCR results are not COVID-19 cases, but these "science" guys can't figure that out
     
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    We both know where your statements originate. If they were yours, I wouldn't even bother responding to them. But the source of these lies is the President of the United States. Neither you nor Trump would be able to defend them, as you post shows.

    Besides, forum rules allow me to say things about Trump that are real, but that I am forbidden to say about you even if they were.
     
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    The topic is Covid-19 not Trump, not the poster you replied to.
    Somehow you can't keep Trump or personal accusations out of your arguments. This is a sure sign of playing a weak hand
     
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    You are as wrong about that as you are wrong about all the other psychobabble emanating from Fauci and the media.

    You are either ignorant of or in denial of the fact that Fauci stated in public and on video in 2017 that "this administration(Trump) will face an epidemic". How did the good doctor know that Golem?
     
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    Wrong! The topic is Trump. If you want to discuss Covid-19, there are two Forums dedicated to that topic.

    Covid-19 is not a political issue. Trump's mishandling of the crisis, which has caused over a quarter of a million dead, is.

    I sure wish we could have kept Trump out of the Presidency. Tens of thousands of Americans would not have died.
     
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    The biden virus will go away just as soon as he distributes the vaccine he is responsible for having created in such a short time.
     
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    Hey, bet you can't say "Trump" again.
     
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    This concept that Trump is right, and scientists are wrong that Trump pushes, can only take hold among right-wingers. Normally it would just be a matter to be laughed at and/or ignored. But this time it costs lives!

    Because he was already in contact with labs in China to create this virus, kill over a million people just to make Trump look bad, of course. And the best way to not get caught is by stating their plans in a video two years before they happened. Why else?

    Diabolical plan to prepare an Andromedan Robot invasion and take over the Earth.

    Ok ok... so it's also a matter to be laughed at. One can't avoid it.
     
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