U.S. Education Rankings Are Falling Behind the Rest of the World

Hispanics really don't need the help either. Every decade they are getting closer to parity with the national averages in income and education.

 

Read what you just said. You are saying the government needs to teach some groups of people to encourage education in their own children?

 

I actually argued against that, saying that over a million foreign students come to the US and simply buy in to have a place at a university. 75% of them are Asians. Plenty of them remain behind, since they end up with a good job because of their diploma's. The cost of that is 100,000s of bucks. No doubt they paid such a lavish sums to attend exceptionally good high schools, back in Asia. It's the Asian upper class basically. And with such financial backing and a good job in the US, they just buy their way into the best schools again for their kids. You can't compare that with the US black population who got impoverished to get 3rd world education till 1965 to end up only being able to do entry job things, getting kids in poor neighborhoods with poor facilities, only getting access to crappy public schools no teacher in it's right mind would love to teach at.... destroying any kind of idea of that next generation being able to escape their parents poverty at first glance.

Look at post 146. High school of Allen, Texas. Massive stadium. It's predominantly white.
https://schools.texastribune.org/districts/allen-isd/allen-high-school/

I got my doubts you would find such a temple in your random poor black neighborhood.
What would you say?

 

Perhaps, we need to address the problem involving why some people - regardless of their race/ethnicity/culture - need encouragement and help to educate their children?

What went wrong, and why did it go wrong?

 

When one considers the fact that the government is largely responsible for eroding people's value for and sense of individual responsibility, it seems a bit much (laughably so, perhaps) to expect the government, and most specifically the people working in it, to act against their own interests and bad habits.

If I want to teach someone individual responsibility and self-reliance the LAST place I am going to turn is to government.

 

education taxes are forwarded to the state government, and then, it gets distributed equitably.

A biased selection of facts.......

The most important labor market indicator is what percentage of peope aged 17 and older are working/are employed?

In other words; Above-average intelligent people would rather have a 5% unemployment rate, and a 64% employment rate VERSUS a 3.5% unemployment rate, and a 61% employment rate.

In other words, what group of people is making a greater contribution to the economy?

a. Those who are working/employed

or,

b. Those who are actively looking for work?

In addition, Blacks Employment rate has historically been higher than Trump's 59.3%

Bush; 59.5% of the black population, aged 17 and older were working/employed
Clinton; 61.4% of the black population, aged 17 and older were working/employed
Note: BLS archived, from 1994 to current

Source; https://www.bls.gov/bls/news-release/empsit.htm#2020

 

We keep diverting funds to Happy Think brain washing programs and telling students that critical thinking is racist. Math is racist. Objective thinking is racist. Here's a trophy for just showing up.
Congratulations Leftists! You have undermined the only place the government won't turn on you and put you in a gulag.

 

I am not expert how to fix this problem, and I don't care why we have this problem, I just want to fix it. IMHO it is mostly related economically deprived neighborhoods. I know someone who is teaching in a such neighborhoods (not because he wanted it, if was part of the deal in order to get scholarship) . If I repeat his stories nobody will believe me such things happens in American schools.
BTW - once I visited my kids school. I looked thought the door window - teacher was talking, students near him looked interested in the lesson, but few desks far away students were playing cards, reading books and looked totally uninterested in the lesson. I looked into another class - looked the same. I asked my kid if this is every day - to prove it is true he video recorded his lesson.
How to fix this problem? No idea.

 

This is exactly what I said and what I mean. If you have a better solution, I am willing to listen.

 

Don't feel bad. The sad fact of the matter is that it can't be fixed. Not entirely, at least. There are some things people have to do for themselves.

 

Exactly this. If people aren't willing to be responsible for themselves and their children, there is nothing we can give them to change that. Giving them more and more only increases their dependence as they learn they don't have to do anything to receive a handout.

 

~ Why don't you .. ? Other countries concent on subject matter - not race, gender and politics.

 

Trumps policies reversed the LFPR and established the inverse between that and the unemployment. Less people on govt assistance under him, lowest black unemployment. This was not a coincidence as much as you may want to convince yourself otherwise. This was Trumps doing. He outperformed obama while spending considerably less. This is an objective fact.

 

That’s discriminatory. It’s the purpose of the govt to protect citizens first and foremost. Not to discriminate against them because 1 group doesn’t want to educate themselves as much as another. That’s a cultural issue, not an issue for the govt to step into.

 

You misunderstand, again.

The point you evidently missed, is that everyone will obviously know the rules, so those who feel they won't be able to support even a basic respect for education will know not to have kids. If they desperately want kids, they'll know to up their parenting game. This is the only humane way to do it - because it's all voluntary. Full disclosure means full knowledge, and fully informed decisions.

 

Don't mention 'talent' to Asian parents! They don't care for that concept .. regarding it as a very poor substitute for hard work.

Work without talent is ALWAYS more powerful than talent without work.

 

Again, don't make slack parenting pay.

 

How in hell can you fix ANY problem, when you have no interest in what caused it?

That's an utterly ridiculous position.

 

I wonder what the data would show if we compared, say, only the top 30% of students of each country. Would the top 30% of American children be behind the top 30% of other countries? What about the top 50%? Would we find that the United States is on par with other countries, but that our bottom group is worse than their bottom group which pulls down the average?

Now, it won't surprise me if some forum member pulls the race card and calls me a racist for the above, but if anyone does, I must ask you why you are assuming that only minorities are at the bottom?

 

How does “slack parenting pay” currently?

 

Parents can opt out of taking responsibility because they know the State will feed them (and the kids they fail).

 

And we fix this by doing what? Not feeding the children? Not educating the children?

 

A closer look shows its not a state wide thing but an instance of averages being dragged down by certain counties... certain counties with large populations... under Democrat control.

 

If you want to fold in every issue under the sun then this is going to be one long ass thread. But if you want to stick to your own OP and talk about education, well cd8ed, the Democrats own that through and through and through again so we don't have to talk about Republicans are or aren't responsible for.

 

Dems don’t control those states.