U.S. intelligence reports from January and February warned about a likely pandemic

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm sorry that this article is behind a paywall. I believe most people can view a certain number of articles a month for free. If you already exceeded your quota, this is a good article to read complete next month.

    I'll try to summarize it the best I can.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...9d8cda-6ad5-11ea-b5f1-a5a804158597_story.html

    I know that Trump loyalists will scream "fake news" at the top of their lungs. But the fact is that the WaPo has decades of high standards behind their belt that give them enormous credibility. So, bottom line: I don't care. Here are the facts.

    Intelligence agencies “have been warning on this since January,” said a U.S. official who had access to intelligence reporting that was disseminated to members of Congress and their staffs as well as to officials in the Trump administration, and who, along with others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive information.

    There is a history of WaPo and whistleblowers. Dating back to LBJ. They have all been proven to be ACCURATE. So don't bother with your "anonymous sources" BS.

    “Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were — they just couldn’t get him to do anything about it,” this official said. “The system was blinking red.”

    ....


    "Azar couldn’t get through to Trump to speak with him about the virus until Jan. 18, according to two senior administration officials. When he reached Trump by phone, the president interjected to ask about vaping and when flavored vaping products would be back on the market, the senior administration officials said."

    ...


    On Jan. 27, White House aides huddled with then-acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney in his office, trying to get senior officials to pay more attention to the virus, according to people briefed on the meeting. Joe Grogan, the head of the White House Domestic Policy Council, argued that the administration needed to take the virus seriously or it could cost the president his reelection, and that dealing with the virus was likely to dominate life in the United States for many months.

    Mulvaney then began convening more regular meetings. In early briefings, however, officials said Trump was dismissive because he did not believe that the virus had spread widely throughout the United States.
    And yes! The House Intelligence Committee received similar alerts...

    Robert Kadlec, the assistant secretary for preparedness and response — who was joined by intelligence officials, including from the CIA — told committee members that the virus posed a “serious” threat, one of those officials said.

    Kadlec didn’t provide specific recommendations, but he said that to get ahead of the virus and blunt its effects, Americans would need to take actions that could disrupt their daily lives, the official said. “It was very alarming.”

    But the House Intelligence Committee does not have a Health Secretary or a CDC to explain epidemics to them. They have no power to do anything. They are not even allowed to speak to anybody outside the Intelligence Committee about the content of the briefings received.

    Only Trump has such power. He is the President. But, Trump, in the mean time...

    Trump’s insistence on the contrary seemed to rest in his relationship with China’s President Xi Jingping, whom Trump believed was providing him with reliable information about how the virus was spreading in China, despite reports from intelligence agencies that Chinese officials were not being candid about the true scale of the crisis.

    Trump was relying on Xi, instead of his own intelligence agencies, for information about the virus!!!!!!!

    Some of Trump’s advisers told him that Beijing was not providing accurate numbers of people who were infected or who had died, according to administration officials. Rather than press China to be more forthcoming, Trump publicly praised its response.
    And guess what Trump was worried about, when he was urged by the CDC to stop listening to China and start acting!

    On Feb. 25, Nancy Messonnier, a senior CDC official, sounded perhaps the most significant public alarm to that point, when she told reporters that the coronavirus was likely to spread within communities in the United States and that disruptions to daily life could be “severe.” Trump called Azar on his way back from a trip to India and complained that Messonnier was scaring the stock markets, according to two senior administration officials.
    Of course, in all of this you will choose to believe only what is convenient for you to believe. But these are the facts And people should know them.
     
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  2. Steve N

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    Yet we have de blasio in New York telling people to go out and ride the subways, same with his health commissioner.

    We had Pelosi in Chinatown.

    We had the democrat debates.

    Super Tuesday

    And more.

    Why didn’t the democrats who received those reports warn us?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So... let's see. Now we have that it was President Deblasio and President Pelosi who should have been doing Trump's job.

    We only have ONE President. And that one President* has all the resources: intelligence agencies, a CDC a Health Secretary. Nobody else has that. So nobody can do this incompetent idiot's job for him.

    But if you want Pelosi to do Trump's job, ask him and Pence to resign. And you will have your wish. I'd be rooting for you!
     
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    So if a bomb is heading towards the country and democrats know about it, its OK to remain silent because its Trump's job.
     
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    If it was so clear to the intelligence agencies that the pandemic was imminent, why didn't the same people that have leaked everything except Trump's underwear size leak that in advance?

    The truth is that the federal government receives hundreds of warnings each day and virtually none of them come true. Even Fauci said we had nothing to worry about.
     
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    Really? Link?
     
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    Democrats are trying to rewrite history and cover for China.
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    The truth is if Democrats were in power they would have never closed travel to China or Europe and the virus would be much much worse.

    Democrats won't close borders they don't respect and think doing so is xenophobic.

    Democrats even admit later that trump was right.
     
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    On Jan. 26, Fauci gave an interview to John Catsimatidis, a syndicated radio host in New York. “What can you tell the American people about what’s been going on?” Catsimatidis asked. “Should they be scared?”

    “I don’t think so,” Fauci said. “The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It’s a very, very low risk to the United States, but it’s something we, as public health officials, need to take very seriously.”

    Fauci reiterated that COVID-19 “isn’t something the American people need to worry about or be frightened about” because, at the time, it was centered in China and the U.S. could screen travelers from that nation.

    https://www.statesman.com/news/2020...onavirus-was-lsquonothing-to-worry-aboutrsquo
     
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    So if a bomb is heading towards the country, and Trump does nothing. You'll say that's ok because Democrats and the WHO didn't tell him he should do anything.
     
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    Not quite what you claimed but, fair enough.
     
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    If a bomb was headed the way of the USA, POTUS would be the first to know, NOT the Head of the House.
     
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    So you're justifying Trump not taking it seriously is justified because Fauci said to a radio host "health officials"?

    Well waddaya know... tens of thousands of dead could have been avoided if not for a radio interview!
     
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    That's why Trump started dealing with thin on January 3rd.
     
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    Trump did plenty. Name any other person on the planet who wants to protect America more than Trump.
     
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    Or Cuomo's nursing home massacre
     
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    His thought process is simple. I hate Trump, therefore everything Trump does is wrong.
    No matter what.
     
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    Anybody (and everybody) who intends to vote against Trump (and prevent 4 more years of this Ongoing Trainwreck).
     
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    Both Dems and Cons knew about the China virus. Where were the Dems? Oh, that’s right, partying in NYC and SF Chinatown on the advice of....drumroll....democrats.
     
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    Lol...the left didn’t want a China virus travel ban. The left will openly welcome every slug shithole countries have no use for. You guys literally defend and inviteed into this country human smugglers, drug smugglers and anti American terrorists. And once they get here, you make it impossible to get them out.
     
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    :bored:

    Trotting out that TIRED (Old) Story, Again? :roflol:

    Trump ordered the lockdown (at least) a month too late...

    Trump's FAILED Leadership cost (at least) 50,000 Lives...

    ^That is Universally Accepted (and Utterly Inarguable)...


    Obviously, Trump's supporters will "defend" anything that he does.

    BUT, The REALITY is that Trump's FAILED Leadership Cost (and is Still Costing) Lives.
     
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    Where the hell do you get your news from, China?
     
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    Okay, I can play that game easily. Where were the Republicans? Yes, there was Trump telling you all that you had 15 cases and in a few days, you'd have zero. You should all keep going to work.

    You can't win this point Steve, especially given Trump is The Man in Command, no-one else. Nero fiddled...............
     
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    Where are the most cases and deaths?
     
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