U.S. reports over 4,000 new coronavirus deaths first time

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  1. TheAngryLiberal

    TheAngryLiberal Banned

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    4100 on Jan 6th and 4207 on Jan 7th in 1 Day, the Christmas/New Years SURGE! is upon us. Going to be sad to see how many of those 85 Million who just HAD! to travel to see Grandma for the Holidays are not going to see their beloved relatives for Thanksgiving, Christmas 2021 and New Years 2022. Yeah! it's all a Hoax and people don't need to wear a Mask or take precautions, until it affects them personally, then the Tears and Regret pour out.

    https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-deaths-4000-c06a6dee-42e6-46a5-8bbf-789164c8a8dd.html

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
     
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    Ok. The number of the casualties is the last number to withdraw. So don't expect it to go down soon.

    This said, the United States are doing all wrong.

    As an operator of the sector I would suggest to Americans to wear a mask, to keep the distance and to often sanitize hands.
    This regardless the Anglo-Saxon conception of freedom of choice, personal behavioral freedom ... and so on.

    The United States are risking more than a lot.
    If Americans want to risk, they are free to risk, but they have to be aware that they are condemning to death hundreds of thousands of Americans. SARS-Cov-2 is a tough virus and if you don't limit its diffusion ... it will kill a lot.

    Then, you know ... it's your choice.

    I don hope that the incoming administration will impose some basic NBC rules to the American People. Regardless what Americans will think about. May be Biden will be the most hated President ever, but he will save a lot of lives.

    But I'm not an advisor of Biden ... so ... I will simply observe from my far European viewpoint.
     
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    It's fascinating to watch so many people follow the Pied Piper, relying upon numbers generated by a test never meant to be used for diagnostic purposes. Fascinating, but not surprising.

    Men go mad in herds, but recover their senses only slowly, and one by one.

    I agree with Elon Musk--this whole Operation Covid has greatly diminished my faith in the human species. A mitigating factor is that we are several generations in of having been indoctrinated by the very best.
     
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    So! are you a disbeliever of this Pandemic or do you believe that this is a World wide Hoax and there arn't Millions of people dying of it. I personally know a few people that have had it and two of them said it was a Cakewalk and nothing to worry about, but another lived through it, but has all kinds of crazy post symptoms she can't explain, extreme fatigue, loss of balance, loss of taste and smell, so there is something NOT! normal going on with this virus. For some reason, certain seemingly healthy people get Walloped or Die from it and until we know more about it, I'm going to take some precautions.
     
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    My analysis is more subtle than yours, and probably more informed than yours, but I too rely in part upon anecdotal evidence, the stories told by several dozens of friends who've likely had the infection during the last year.

    If you view the fine documentaries done by Mikki Willis, the Plandemic series including the last one, Indoctornation, you will see that by way of Event 201 and other mechanisms, this "crisis" was manufactured and planned by the oligarchs of the World Economic Forum and others.

    Yes, by all means, people have become sick, and some have died, BUT the narrative told by Fauci & Friends is a false narrative.

    The virus is about as deadly as the flu, and the numbers of "deaths" have been manipulated since the beginning. The data is unreliable.

    The data has been exaggerated so as to terrorize the common people. It worked.
     
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    The current report of Covid-19 deaths of 375,903 persons today. However, the true death toll is about 45,000 deaths higher according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention estimates.

    That is over 420,900 Americans dead today due to the Covid-19 pandemic and free-market ideology.

    407,300 Americans were killed in World War II.

    The Republican Covid pandemic death toll is more than 4X times the seating capacity of Michigan stadium of 100,000 seats persons. They must be proud.​
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    Current and past numbers of Covid deaths are as meaningless and manipulated, by way of a bogus test and outright manipulation of numbers.

    Plandemic
     
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    Pretty tough to prevent an Outbreak in the USA, when you got Democratic Dipshits like these telling everyone there isn't a Problem.

     
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    No way.

    SARS-Cov-2 diffuses itself like the virus of a seasonal flu.
    To contain it the population should follow basic NBC rules [Nuclear Biological Chemical ...].
    The American population is not doing that [thinking about statistics ... just a note: watching the riots c/o Capital Hill I saw a very tiny number of persons wearing a protective mask: if you want to protest ... do it, but wear a mask and better ... also surgical gloves]. Authorities can close all they want, but if the persons don't wear a mask [also outdoor], they don't keep the distance, they don't avoid to touch the others, they don't wash and sanitize their hands frequently ... the virus will keep on running in the United States.

    No way.
     
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    Not only did Dummy Donny Trump shut down the intelligence investigations of Right-wing Coup Klux Klan para-military groups, but he also shut down US pandemic programs researching, preparing, and monitoring deadly SAR viruses. Now we are experiences two pandemics: violent insurrectionist fascist operations, and the deadly Covid-19 virus.

     
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    Pelosi had to inform Trump supporters that the risk of being infected does not increase because an US District has the word China in its name. It's sad that Trump supporters had to be told that, yet clearly you must be one of those that needed to be told given your post above.


    What bits of de Blasio quotes were wrong? Once you've answered perhaps you could inform the deniers who happen to be mostly Trump supporters.
     
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    Typical Hypocritical Liberal that can't admit that their Democratic Leaders are equally to blame as anything they point towards President Trump. They called Trump Xenophobic for being to quick and wanting to Ban travel from China, now they say Trumps response was too slow, So! which is it.
     
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    It's quite telling that you are unable to draw a line in the 350 thousand, the point at which it can be said that Trump is to blame for the deaths!
     
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    But are they really death coronavirus deaths?

    We've discussed this endlessly before.

    A person testing positive for coronavirus and then dying does not mean that the cause of death, or the primary cause of death, was coronavirus.

    For instance, old people close to death's door, doesn't take much to push them over the edge, maybe a severe cold or a bad flu, their body can't handle it, they die.

    And in addition to that, some of these coronaviruses are pretty common and have been around for a long time, and are not the new coronavirus.
    There there is also a question of how specific these tests are.
     
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    And how many people die every year?
    Statistically, some of them are going to have coronavirus before they die. That does not mean it was the cause of their death.

    Respiratory difficulty is pretty common in the population that is about to die. So they perform the test, and a small fraction of them test positive.
     
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    Great, so you are saying you'd be highly critical of Democratic governors and the incoming new president Biden, if this whole coronavirus pandemic and associated shutdown just started to fade away a month or two after Biden enters office?

    Can I write this down in my notebook and hold you to it?
     
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