UA 175: Who created this fake footage from this rare south view?

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Who altered this footage?

  1. Manos Megagiannis

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  1. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    He quite clearly DID hear the plane. The people next to him saw the plane. Of course, looking up, the plane would have only been visible for a fraction of a second before entering the building. Now, seeing as how he was taking a picture at the time, and being a semi-professional photographer myself, I happen to know that when you're looking through the viewfinder and take a picture, the mirror opens up effectively blocking your view, the shutters open, the picture is taken, the shutters close, and the mirror comes down. Total time on a professional camera is anywhere from a tenth of a second to a twentieth of a second in bright sunlight. David couldn't have seen the plane because he was already taking the picture as one can clearly see from his photograph. There is no way he could have swung the camera up, got the picture in focus, and taken the picture fast enough to get the very first moments of the explosion.

    Funny enough is that David Handschuh believes the plane hit the building. He understands a simple fact that some truthers here just can't wrap their tiny minds around; you don't have to see something for it to have happened. Yes, the plane came in fast and he didn't actually see the plane. Does this mean the plane didn't hit? No. Yet some will ignorantly pretend that he REALLY means there was no plane. Truther games are very predictable.
     
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    He quite clearly DID not hear or see a plane and that fact is confirmed by no plane showing up in three live broadcasts. The people next to him saw nothing but repeated what was supposed to be there but wasn't. Of course, looking up, the plane would be visible allowing zero chance that any real-time witness like David could somehow not see and/or hear a passenger jet. David, could NOT have seen a plane because there was no plane to see or hear, just a massive explosion.

    Funny enough is that David Handschuh doesn't believe there was a plane because he was looking at the tower and said it not only wasn't there but didn't hear it. That is confirmed by him saying he had no idea what the the sound was. He certainly would have heard an approaching aircraft for some time before the explosion. No plane of any known kind hit the building. You do have to see something for it to have happened if you're looking right at it.:psychoitc: Yes, no plane came in fast and he didn't actually see any plane. Does this mean a plane didn't hit? Yes. Yet some will ignorantly pretend that he REALLY means there was a plane. Liars like yourself are so mockable.:brainless:
     
  4. 7forever

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    Whomever Cloud turned his footage over to, added a black blob. Clifton, did not hear nor see a plane. It would have been coming from his left. Clifton, debunks all video fakery shown on 911. Advance to 2:00 for his real-time account. He says it over and over and over and over. He didn't see a plane because there was no plane to see. The blob cannot be seen south of where it magically appeared. He was about a mile east of the towers and slightly north.

    "I just caught the second explosion on videotape...No, a bomb, I saw it, no plane hit nothin', the building exploded from the other tower floors down."

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTkzxaHAcNc
     
  5. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    the plane was clearly visible...., and at the range he was at,of course he didn't hear anything....open your eyes
     
  6. 7forever

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    You can clearly see that I took a real picture of a distant plane and it looks real because it is. The black blob in Cloud's video is the only thing that's fake. It's black with no tail section, no wings, no fuselage, nothing but jackass fakery. The light poles render perfect silver with a black blob just west.

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  7. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    wHe was clearly more than just a mile away when he shot the video,and the resolution of the camcorders ccd chip is good for taking close up video, but
    He was clearly more than just a mile away from the buildings,and the resolution of the video was poor,but you could just see the wings,so quit fibbing about that.........furthermore,did you notice later in the video,he was talking to other bystanders who said they had seen the planes hit the buildings?

    If I didn't know better,I'd say you were pulling a fast one with your ridiculous spamming
     
  8. Sir Thaddeus

    Sir Thaddeus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please avoid insults, off topic comments and metaposts. Thread bannings, and possibly forums bannings, need not be necessary.
     
  9. leftysergeant

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    I keep hearing about an "orb" but I never see an orb in any of the videos. I see an airplane, slightly out of focus because the cameras were focused on the burning tower.

    Can you give me a link to video that shows an "orb?"
     
  10. 7forever

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    You are silly and don't what you're talking about in the least. He didn't see a plane because there wasn't one when the south tower exploded.
     
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    It looks nothing like a distant or clear plane with visible markings, just a discernable black blob.

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  12. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    OF COURSE IT DOES.........the low resolution would have made ANYTHING look like a blob......your claiming of a fake plane because on the cameras inability toclearly resolve what was in it's lens is ridiculous..
     
  13. DDave

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    7forever doesn't really understand how TV cameras deal with images with crappy resolution.

    Or maybe he does but he doesn't care.

    Here is a clip of video effects expert Steve Wrights explaining it to Ace Baker.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4669137903152322593
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2432158918700622833

    But I doubt 7forever will watch it.

    I could have SWORN I posted this yesterday but it seems to be gone now.
     
  14. leftysergeant

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    It has two clearly discernable projections on either side and is clearly not ROUND.

    [​IMG][/QUOTE]Cow cookies. That object has no visible engines and is just a flat slab riding on the wings. I see a vertical stabilizer that appears to be attached to nothing.

    How many mega pixels does your camera offer? Two?
     
  15. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've spent far too much time trying to explain depth of field, digital image compression distortion, and the limitations of his gif videos.

    In retrospect it was not worth my time.
     
  16. 7forever

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    OF COURSE IT DOES.........the low resolution didn't make ANYTHING look like a blob except the fake plane blob......you claiming that it's a real plane by using the poor quality double standard is laughable.:brainless:

    Everything is discernable, including the black blob that was a very poor computer generated image that made the evening news.
     
  17. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    I give up....obviously you're going to continue to insist the planes were 'fake' despite the evidence to the contrary......keep spamming your'stuff' and try and learn about video and lens focus
     
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    First of all, the blob in Clifton Cloud's altered video IS NOT SEEN flying south of where it appeared out of thin air. I took a picture of a distant plane, and compared to the blob it reveals reality. The black blob was added by whomever Cloud turned his footage over to and supports that no real plane was involved in T2.

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    This is relatively high-quality video from a surveilance camera. Its point of aim, however, is not much farther out than the dock it surveils. Notice how the aircraft passing through its field of vison becomes blurred and fades into the back ground between 0:03 and 0:06.

    [video=youtube;FIS-aKJMY3E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIS-aKJMY3E[/video]

    This is better resolution than is available on any of the amatuer videos other than the Hezarkhani video or the Fairbanks video. The news footage was recorded while the cameras were focused on the towers. Resolution must be expected to be less than crystal clear.

    You have not shown any real anomolies in the videos from any sort.

    Further, if we compare this video to the Pentagon videos from the parking lot camera, which had a fish-eye lens focued on a proportionally much closer area, we can see that the image of the full length of Flt 77 was as clear as anyone with common sense has a right to expect.
     
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    I'm not sure what you getting at, but Clifton's video proves that someone added a black blob for the evening news that he appeared on.
     
  21. DDave

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    No, it just proves that you really don't understand how video cameras work.

    I love your sig line by the way.

    With all of this "video fakery" and "paid actors" claims that Fetzer promotes, it makes one wonder if he isn't really a disinfo agent, don't you think?
     
  22. 7forever

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    You either haven't read this thread or simply ignored it. Which is it, and why have you ignored facts and reality? Three live broadcasts aired a floating orb coming from an impossible direction for a plane, the west. They didn't hide anything, they called a dot a plane and people like yourself are ignoring that visual fact.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_caQ9ZsGycY&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obt-1d9POXM&list=PL1C1F97A9B8B8D8AE&index=121&feature=plpp_video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y-R4CGVtIg&list=PL1C1F97A9B8B8D8AE&index=51&feature=plpp_video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo7saZNJUmc&list=PL1C1F97A9B8B8D8AE&index=130&feature=plpp_video
     
  23. DDave

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    Why are you attacking RWF? In the post you quoted, he was replying to a post by NAB.

    RWF is on YOUR side.

    Meh . . . another truther mind implosion.
     
  24. 7forever

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    I didn't attack him but asked him why he hasn't, to my knowledge addressed the pink elephant in the room.
     
  25. DDave

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    Yeah, RWF has stated in other threads that he doesn't buy the video fakery theory.
     
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