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    Ok so some human was somehow in a UFO, piloting it no less, decided some random noise transmission was worthy of investigation, focused in on the source, landed by it, saw you and thought it was a great idea to take you for a "joyride". You realize how that sounds? A couple of obvious questions, why on earth would a human being be piloting a UFO and let you in on it?
     
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    If you want the backstory about why a man was piloting a UFO, I have no idea. We didn't talk about it. But, why does a person pilot anything? Jet, plane, helicopter? They just do. But I think he was military because at some point during the ride the pilot got a radio transmission to return to base.

    Anyway, he first invited me into the ufo to get information to file a report about what I just did with the radio. I think through sheer luck of the draw, like the odds of winning the lottery, I happened upon a secret radio frequency being used at the time. It was a major thing.
     
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    A human being piloting a UFO? They just do? No questions asked? Why would you not ask any questions as if this happens all the time? You just happened to hit a secret radio frequency and that was cause to casually take you on a joyride in a UFO? And it just happens you had also connected with multiple alien species.Talk about the lottery, the odds of all that are about the same as winning the lottery every week for a year. I'm quite open minded when it comes to UFOs and aliens even though I've never personally had anything to do with these phenomena but your story strains the bounds of credibility to say the least. Ok let's go back to your "discussions" with aliens, at least those who communicated with you, what was discussed?
     
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    Oh, what didn't we talk about!

    They asked whether the flowers were food; I was asked to define what some words meant; Direct them to Egypt; Read aloud some English-word documents for them; I was shown some human organs and they wanted to know what we call them and what they do; About my day; Talk about what they were doing to me; And they were going to teach me some things but I told them I couldn't use it and they should contact my government instead.
     
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    Earlier you said you were afraid to open your eyes, now you're saying you had extensive conversations with them. This is contradictory, just saying. But let's continue. What is it that they were going to teach you and why is it you couldn't use it? Also what about Egypt? And if they did probe you, why were they asking about human organs? It seems to me in order to probe you they had to know what they were doing otherwise they risked killing you. What kind of documents were you asked to read, anything unusual or just some ordinary print?
     
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    I did both: have conversations and close my eyes. Closing my eyes allowed me to get beyond my fears and talk to them like any other person.

    I don't quite remember anymore what they were proposing to teach me, it could have been the physics thing, the fusion thing, or the technical device thing, but it was complicated and it would have made me famous, but I told them not to give it to me because I never become anything. That they should give it to the government because they could use it.

    Egypt? They wanted to go there because they had received a signal from there. But the aliens only received the first part of the signal, and they were sent to investigate.

    As for probing, we are talking about multiple alien species here even though my previous post seemed to indicate that it was singular. Some seem to have more or less knowledge about humans and seem to have different tech levels, which translates into how easy or hard the encounter is, and what takes place.

    I read documents twice. The first time it was to explain some sort of treaty and they needed me to read it aloud so that they could understand it. For some reason, they understand English speech but not our writing. The second time was from a different group who were trying to figure out an encoded military transmission, and I sort of forgot that part because I became lost in talking about tech standards of Earth. Like character sets and so on... I hope I didn't do anything bad by allowing them to read our transmission. Oh well, but I think everything I told them was open knowledge on Earth.
     
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    Can you describe the physical appearance of each of the alien species? Also some of the other characteristics that differentiated between them. And if you know, do some of these species interact with each other? And also if you know what is their agenda (other than strictly exploration) of those you know about?
     
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    Assuming of course that this is all true, if it were me, hell no, I would never suggest such a dangerous thing, I would suggest the exact opposite.
     
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    There was the one with black fur and white stripes; The one that was tall and white; The little people about the size of a 3-5 year old kid; The ones with rectangular/compound eyes; And that's just some of the ones which revealed themselves to me, there were more that wore full-body suits that covered them from top to bottom.

    As far as interacting goes, I only know one had a list of compatible wireless signals from other alien species.

    I have no idea of any alien agenda other than to check us out.
     
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    Why would it be dangerous?
     
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    Were they the so-called "Greys"?

    I often wonder about aliens who come from planets with different atmospheres and gravities as to how they would cope with those factors on our planet. Not to mention the possibility of them bringing their viruses here, infecting us and them contracting earth based viral infections. So I can understand the suits but I don't understand no protective suits, which is often depicted by other accounts with the Greys having no protective head gear. The odds of another habitable planet having a similar atmospheric composition and/or similar gravitational influence is extremely slim.

    I have no trust in any government to use advanced alien technology for anything but potentially sinister purposes.

    I'm guessing you have no concrete evidence to support any of your experiences?
     
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    I have no idea whether any of the aliens I encountered were the "grays," nor why some of them didn't have full body coverings. It confounds me too. But to be fair, one of them removed their head covering for a short time so I could see them.

    I have no evidence that I carried with me to the present day.

    Although, I have experienced events that were a direct result of alien encounters that is validation for me personally.
     
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    No, not really. There is little to no resemblance to the aliens I encountered. Well, there was that one time where I encountered two different kinds of aliens in one encounter and I saw a small alien that walked between the two alien crafts. It might have been a grey. I have no idea because I wasn't close and didn't interact with it directly.

    But, when I think of grey and aliens, I think of the ones who wore a gray full body suit. It was a body covering, it wasn't skin.
     
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    Interesting because you claim to have encountered several species yet none of them match the description of what is claimed to be the type of alien most have encounters with. They also claim these types are about 4-5 ft tall.
     
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    Some of them were maybe 4-5 ft tall, but I wouldn't call them Greys.

    I'm also aware that Greys are the most encountered alien. And, I've scoured the internet for races and descriptions of aliens, but none of them match what I encountered. There doesn't seem to be a single soul who has encountered anything similar to what I did. I can't explain it.
     
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    Ok, I bought the movie on youtube a few days ago and I've been watching it in pieces ever since. What did I think of it?

    It's an hour forty-five minutes long. So, committing to watch it all is quite the undertaking.

    So, it takes the interview format talking about several key events over the years, taking the position that those events are factual. From Rosewell to the African school children, and the Navy's ufo video. It doesn't cover anything new that's not already documented in the public sphere. But it doesn't cover too much wooo that doesn't already have to happen when taking the argument that aliens/UFOs are real viewpoints.
     
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    I streamed it and watched it in its entirety.

    I am aware of much of what is presented in the documentary. I did learn some things I didn't know before. For example the UFOs disabling the nuclear ICBMs but I wasn't aware that it was done to the extent claimed in the documentary. I do wonder if aliens are disabling nuclear arsenals why have they not disabled the thousands of nuclear explosions that several nations have experimented with, and especially those that have murdered tens of thousands at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. There was no mention of alien abductions. Those should have been made part of the documentary. There are far too many accounts all over the planet to ignore.

    But you see it goes back to my point that most of the UFO data is still classified and all indications are that some above top secret entity is keeping information away even from the highest authorities in the US government. So there are 2 levels of secrecy, for what reason, who knows? It's not really like there isn't enough information out there that we really don't know what's going on. Most of us who have done the research and are not close minded do know this is not fantasy or science fiction. Most people talk about IF there is life beyond Earth but they can't wrap their heads around the possibility of intelligent life forms that have a technology that is tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands or even millions of years beyond ours. And that is inevitable in a Universe estimated to be 13.8 billions of years old.

    I don't really know if your story is true or not or perhaps even partly true but I am not in any position to dismiss it as nonsense. There are some holes and contradictions in your story but perhaps it's only because of how you're relating it or maybe you're not even sure yourself. Such an experience, especially to a young person would inevitably be traumatic as you somewhat described. That would have an effect on how you would remember it and relate it others.
     
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    I meant to say I watched the film a bit at a time and had just finished watching it.

    Anyway, what were the holes and contradictions?
     
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    I should have added far fetched coincidences too. You claim this all happened over the period of about a decade so you had to grow in maturity, experience and intelligence during that period of time from first to last encounter. You were selected (or just plain approached) for contact by 4-5 different species of aliens, mostly at one location but at other locations as well. Note you didn't say and I failed to ask if you had more than 1 encounter with the same species. You had your eyes closed for the most part but you peeked at times, yet you had long conversations with one or more of the species and at least one species asked you to identify human organs and read a document, all of which requires that you have your eyes open for an extended period of time. You're not sure that some of these encounters were real or not (you don't identify what or which might be unreal). In addition to your multiple alien encounters you just happened to transmit some kind of signal (possibly) that attracted a human piloting a UFO who decided to land it near you and also decided it was a good idea to have fun and take you for a joyride yet you asked him no significant questions. These are just some of the things I noted from your story that I found inconsistent, that is not to say all of it is far fetched. But anyone who would have even just 1 encounter and relates to anyone else would have his/her story taken with extreme skepticism. I have heard accounts by some who had multiple encounters with the same species over many years from childhood to adulthood. Even of one woman who claims to have been impregnated and gave birth to a hybrid who was kept by the aliens. There are many stories out there that sound really far fetched to those who have never had any experiences. Then again, that's understandable because we really know very little to nothing about what is beyond this planet in terms of intelligent life. We also know there are many scammers who would exploit that lack of knowledge for various reasons.
     
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    Well, yes. I realize it sounds far fetched. Anyway, I want to correct the period. It was 1980s and 1990s. So two decades.

    I had multiple encounters with 2 species.

    Ok, yes. When it came time to look at things I averted my eyes from looking at the aliens.

    Ok, yes. The Egypt one involved grabbing my consciousness outside of my body one night so we could chat. And, after we were done talking about Egypt I was snapped back into my body which was lying in bed. So, it could have been a dream. But other encounters happened in broad daylight while I was fully awake. So, I know those weren't dreams.

    Yeah, that encounter was one in a million, but after encountering things of high strangeness I guess I didn't really care about the details. To compare, one might ask why someone didn't ask about how the furniture surrounding them was put together.

    Understood.

    I don't know about hybrids, but Human DNA studies yes. In one of my alien encounters, we talked about it. They said they are studying the DNA of humans to make an advanced/superior genetic code for their own uses.

    What they do is fertilize several human eggs with human sperm and then, once they start dividing (an embryo?), they implant the cells inside an unwilling human female here on earth. Deep inside her reproductive tract so that it's not so easy to take them out. Once it takes, that is it is a viable fetus, a few days to a couple of weeks later, it is taken out of the woman in another encounter and put in an artificial life support machine for a few more weeks, so that there's enough material to work with, and then it's harvested and cut up to extract the DNA and materials for study.

    Understood.
     
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    All the more reason why as you aged over such a long period of time and allegedly had multiple encounters you would or should have been mature enough at the later period to stay alert and learn as much as you could about what you witnessed and experienced. That would include asking tons of questions, especially to a human being you could relate to piloting a UFO. If it were me I wouldn't be able stop asking questions, then again I'm on the wrong side of 70s.

    Sorry but that's not a valid comparison. No one in his/her right mind would equate seeking knowledge of how furniture is put together to seeking knowledge about aliens and UFOs, no matter how many encounters were made with UFOs.

    On a separate note, in the Phenomenon documentary, someone actually collected pieces of UFO material that was allegedly analyzed to contain multiple unknown elements much higher in the Periodic Table than we know exist, pieced together on an atomic scale to form an alloy of some kind. Of course we have no scientific peer reviewed analysis of the claim but if it's true it's not only fascinating to me but it does illustrate how primitive our technology is in comparison. These UFOs were also observed to perform maneuvers that would splatter any occupant inside it. That means they have mastered complete control of gravity and centrifugal forces. They also have found ways to make extreme distances irrelevant. That means physics limitations as we understand them such as the speed of light is not a barrier to these creatures.
     
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    I'm sorry, I don't know what to say, beyond that I have a different point of view.

    Yes, a lot of those higher elements are very heavy with a lot of stuff packed in there. It's so hard for nature to build up these higher elements so it's so close to an impossibility that they would generally be considered to be manufactured.
     
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    Those higher elements are not found in nature, at least we haven't found them and the only way we can create elements at the upper end of the Periodic table as we know it is via a particle accelerator. But the densest elements are unstable and only survive for tiny fractions of a second under that condition. I don't even know how they were able to analyze the composition of the alloy and determine some of these elements were in the 250+ range.when the densest discovered element I'm aware of is 118.
     
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    The atomic number is the amount of protons in the nucleus of an atom.

    ATOMIC NUMBER AND MASS NUMBERS
    https://www.nde-ed.org/EducationResources/HighSchool/Radiography/atomicmassnumber.htm
    How we find the number of protons, well that's chemistry. But, I can't remember right now how that's done. It slipped my mind.
     

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