UK court rules against assisted suicide.

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  1. ryanm34

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    I honestly can't imagine a different ruling in Ireland but I do not believe that such a ruling is just or fair to Nicklinson. He is cognisant and rational, he has a clear reason for his request he seems to be an intelligent and rational man. I am so sorry for him and his family that they must suffer through this.

    I have wondered why they do not simply go to Switzerland.

    I think however that the fault on this case lies not with the courts but with the legislature who have the power to grant this and to ensure proper oversight of such cases but refuse to. An all too common problem in Ireland has been the courts recognising the rights of citizens and the legislature refusing to legislate for the issue because it could be difficult electorally.

    A relatively decent article on the subject from the Mail.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-life-High-Court-action-euthanasia-fails.html

    Edit a great youtube video

    [video=youtube;6gqSYIDsKjs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gqSYIDsKjs[/video]
     
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    Yet 24-week old babies can still be terminated in the womb. The mind baffles, absolutely baffles.

    When the woman wants to get rid of her baby, which has the rest of its life ahead of it, it is okay. Yet when an old person, who is suffering and does not have long to live, wants to terminate their own life suddenly it is not okay?

    If assisted suicide was a "women's issue", I don't think there would be any debate. In British politics, the woman comes before personal liberties and the individual right to choose.
     
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    Ah yes, and of course all that is easily explained by their disproportionate representation in cabinet, commons and the lords.

    A woman is not a person with a right to choose? There are no women who would prefer assisted suicide?
     
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    Tony Nicklinson passed away today.

    He refused food since the judgement and passed surrounded by family this morning.

    Of course it is more humane to have a man starve to death than grant him the swift and painless end he desired.
     
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    Good for him - but how on eath did he do it so quickly?

    Incidentally, in my family we always seem to have found decent doctors to help us home.
     
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    He refused food, starved for 4 days and then contracted pneumonia and drowned in his own fluids.

    Nice way to go.
     
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    This thread is at nearly 500 views and no one has anything to add?

    No defense of the ciminalisation of voluntary euthanasia?
     
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    Stephen Hawking comes out in favor of assisted suicide...
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    British cosmologist Hawking backs right to assisted suicide
    17 Sept.`13 - British cosmologist Stephen Hawking has backed the right for people who are terminally ill to choose to end their lives and to receive help to do so as long as safeguards are in place.
     
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    An idea who's time has come...
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    Australian State Lawmakers to Vote on Assisted Dying
    October 28, 2017 - Australian lawmakers in the state of Victoria will debate a bill to allow medically assisted dying, a highly controversial issue fraught with arguments over who, if anyone, should be able to decide the timing of his or her own death.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The judiciary here are just as dumb as the political classes. They're always sanctimoniously bellyaching about human rights and here they are, denying the polloi the ultimate human right - the right to self-determination.
     
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    I don't think there are any issues with us pottering off to Switzerland is there? Ergo not sure what the prob is doing it here.
     
  12. The Rhetoric of Life

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    What if you're in the UK and take a Brit who wants this, to Switzerland, when it's time, will the UK arrest you on your way to Switzerland before you leave the UK because; isn't taking someone to Switzerland seeking euthanasia assisting in someone's suicide?
     
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    Dunno? I was just thinking that there seems to be a steady if somewhat small number of people going to Switzerland and so far as I know a blind eye seems to be the result from the establishment on those that have taken people there?
     
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    Well it is for the poor sod who's about to take his last ever journey on this earth knowing what's going to be at the end of it.
     
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    :)...I would guess if you're on your way to Dignitas then your already pretty sure of whats' at the end of it and why you're pottering off over their... its not to test out your favourite choocy bars unless its laced with a ton of barbituates
     
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    True, but it isn't exactly something the individual would be looking forward to, would it, when it could so easily be achieved without embarking on that traumatising journey, and thinking about it every minute it takes?
     
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    I agree why don't we have the debate here? Seems the Swiss managed it without too much of a squeak and I don't think they are any less squeamish than us.
     
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    As I've said, I think it all comes down to the ultimate right of self-determination. Why should anyone who isn't involved presume to know what's best for the only person it concerns? They just go home and forget all about it, whereas the individual upon whom they've condemned to sleepless nights and probably constant pain as well, must live with it for what's left of the remainder of their lives. Who the **** are these arrogant and presumptuous c*nts who think they know better than anyone else?[/QUOTE]
     
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    yup! been there done that...
     

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