UK Court Sends Man to Jail for Nazi Joke, Proving How Valuable Our Free Speech Rights Are

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  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The most egregious example is the story of Mark Meechan, known by his popular YouTube persona as “Count Dankula.”

    The prank involved teaching his girlfriend’s pug — whom his girlfriend thought to be the cutest thing on the planet — to raise his paw in salute when he heard “Heil Hitler.”

    “We are considering the route of appeal, because there’s been a huge miscarriage of justice. I think it is a very, very dark day in regards to freedom of speech and freedom of expression,” Meechan said to reporters after his conviction.

    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_mo...azi-joke-proving-valuable-free-speech-rights/

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  2. Doofenshmirtz

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    Nice! I can't teach my pug a thing!
     
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    FYI, it would have been worse if he did it in Germany!!!
     
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    It looks like the globalist treat Hitler like the Islam's treat Muhammad
     
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    AJ is correct above.... he hasn't been sentenced yet, so you are jumping the gun (and I hope that's not the sentence).

    This is, of course, a silly use of any courts time and a ridiculous verdict.... No harm, no Foul.... Who would even have standing to bring this to a court??

    Without making me search, do you have a link showing the doggie doing this? I don't really want 'Count Dankula' in my search history....
     
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    Well hell, are we gonna have to go in now militarily and bring these people fweedumb?
     
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  7. truth and justice

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    Your link missed out the relevant stuff. Mark Meechan, 30, recorded his girlfriend's pug, Buddha, responding to statements such as "gas the Jews" and "Sieg Heil" by raising its paw. Why was the phrase "gas the Jews" left out of your link?

    And no one is going to prison
     
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    LMAO.

    He hasn't been SENTENCED (yet).

    Hopefully he gets the MAX Sentence (allowable by statute).

    A PATHETIC Social-Media BS Artist (like "Dankula") should've been jailed a long time ago (just on general principles).

    Knowing the UK, he will probably skate on some sort of probation (then the whiny RW can move onto some other outlet to vent their uproarious faux outrage).

    Dankula? :roflol: What a tool. :smfh:
     
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  9. Channe

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    what should be jailed for ? for ruffling your feathers ?
    typical fascist progressive attitude.
     
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    The radical bigots that run the UK are allowed to repress "free speech" because their country has no free speech.

    Thankful to be an American.
     
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    thread closed in 3...2...1...
     
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    Whatever, bro'.

    Whatever makes you feel better.

    I have no input in the UK criminal justice system.

    I am neither judge, jury, nor executioner in the UK.

    A "fair" sentence would probably be something like a month in jail (followed by 3 months of house arrest, followed by a year of probation and no home internet access during house arrest or probation).

    PS--Have you PMed the Mods to thank them for fixing your thread title?

    The Mods here have a difficult job (and they perform it admirably), and they shouldn't have to waste time fixing thread titles in Current Events (because someone doesn't understand the rules of thread creation).

    Why would anybody do something (like not follow thread creation rules) that makes the job of PF's Hard-Working Mods more difficult?

    Hopefully you have already thanked them in PM.

    Carry on, and enjoy the rest of your day at PF. :salute:
     
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    Why would such an act ever warrant being charged or sentenced at all, and why would you defend it? Don't care for free speech?
     
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    The fact that it got this far is insane. Its a joke. A tasteless one, but a joke nonetheless.
     
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    Freedom of speech? About the Nazis outside of academic and scholarly circles? Really. Take a hike.
     
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    The thought police are coming to America, escorted in by the globalist that run the dnc.
     
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    Trumpies gonna Trumpie. :smfh:
     
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    I mean it's no biggie to us but what is really bugging the crap out of me associated with this story and the picture provided is,,,,,what the hell is up with these dudes and their ear lobes sporting a disc like an African native?
     
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    They've been here since religion was brought here from Europe, duh...
     
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    That is where the problem is. The judge did not believe that it was a joke created to annoy his girlfriend. The judge believes that if that was the case he would not have allowed it to be so publicly available. Hence the judge believes his motivation was to incite hate and to be frank if he did deliberately make it widely available that does sound like that is what he was doing masking it as a joke. I don't know if it was a joke or not but he was found guilty because the judge did not believe that teasing his girlfriend was the motivation. Apparently he is being interviewed with a possibility of some time of house arrest.

    He appears to have got many friends from this apparently privately intended video as within 8 hours of putting up a crowd funding page for his legal defence, he had received £12,000.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...nd_guilty_of__being_grossly_offensive_online/
     
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    That's some real nice apple shining there bro!
    Undoubtedly when you are trolling, derailing threads and insulting people, as you always do, that'll get you some
    more leeway for the most consistently absurd posts at PF.

    Oh...and the issue itself? It's moronic and an affront to free speech laws everywhere, of course.
    Only in the UK (and France, and Germany, and Sweden, and the Netherlands, etc) where jail time may be the outcome when someone can claim offense because someone else taught their dog to do a fake Nazi salute on cue.

    Only in Europe and Canada and probably Australia can my right to free expression end the moment you feel I've said or done something that offends you.
     
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    Yeah, governments do **** like this so they can get out of committing to solutions to real world racism. Youtube is a cesspit and everyone who has a channel there deserves to suffer just for their proximity to it, but jailing a dude for such a superficially racist joke is an unsuitable reaction. If someone makes a dumb joke, you call them a dumbass and move on.
     
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    Expression always has limits. It's never unlimited. As J.S. Mill pointed out, that is merely licence The difficulty is in finding the limits.
     
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    I guess you're american. First inform yourself, then talk. You want to have a list of nazi/Hitler jokes cracked on German tv?
    And guess what, no sentences.
     
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    The PC police are everywhere.

    May your thoughts be pure.
     
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