Ukraine Bans WWII Victory Day Celebration Against Nazis

I wouldn't worry about Donetsk too much, Zacharshenko seems to have a good handle on things and it will be a great addition to the Federation. The integration process is coming along just fine.



As for Lugansk, they're not doing too badly either.



What a pity their heroes Givi and Motorola were assassinated by the Nazis and weren't able to lead the parade. It was just another thing leading to Ukraine's death.

 

I do not like an idea of Donetsk integration into Russian Federation. Russia already have a lot of expenses in Crimea, building up infrastructure there, the bridge over the channel, paying pensions etc. There is no extra money for restoration of Donbass. In addition, pensioners in Russia already live from hand to mouth. If now all the pensions will be destributed among Donbass population, then it would be disaster for Russian pension fund. As I said before, for this integration first the population of Russia should be asked if they agree to integrate Donbass into Russia. Another thing is that Donbass is not Crimea- not everyone there wants to be in Russia.

 

Crimea was neglected by Ukraine, and there were a lot of people who were ready to invest in Crimea when it became part of Russia. This is why it was sanctioned so highly. They wanted to punish them for voting to be with Russia, thinking that if they suffered economic hardships they would return to Ukraine. Yeah right!

As for the Donbass, it was the most highly industrialized area of Ukraine. I don't think that Russia will take them in though until their economy is up to par. Because of the Nazi's actions in not allowing things to be transported into Ukraine, Zacharchenko was forced to nationalize the industries. He also stopped sending money to Kiev.

They are having talks now about integration. It's a gradual process. They're allowing the people of Donetsk to use Russian banks now.

As for the penshioners, Kiev stopped the payments a long time ago. Russia has been paying them, so it wouldn't make a difference as far as Russia's economy goes.

 

The Nazi army Azov, just killed 4 more people and Poroshenko used it as an excuse not to appear at Eurovision. Yeah right Poroshenko, he was probably afraid he would be booed and it would be seen throughout the world. I mean human life means nothing, but image means everything.

Of course he came out with the laughable that it was the Russians who killed them. I guess the Russians are killing their own people again to make the Ukrainians look bad.

As for Donetsk, the integration talks with Russia are on going. In the meantime they're spending their time parading. They had their Immortal Parade, and their Victory Day Parade and yesterday they had their Independence Day parade, which is absolutely lovely.

ENJOY!

 

The Ukrainians have no right to be mad over the fact that Stalin's famine killed 12 million Ukrainians?

 

You mean the Gallician Ukrainians are mad at Stalin about the famine killing millions of their hated Orthodox Ukrainians, when it was Khruschev who was in charge of distribution.

Doesn't something seem strange there, or is it just me... especially considering that the Nazis, who the Gallicians were allied with, killed millions of Ukrainians to take their lands and yet there is not a mention of the Nazis in their propaganda narratives?

Of course with the Gallicians one can expect anything... maybe that's why Nuland put them in charge. Instead of them apologizing to Poland for the genocide and the deaths of over 100 thousand ... including children whose heads they were bashing against the wall, the Gallacians were furious with the Poles for insulting their hero Bandera who caused it.

 

Jeannette, Russia pays pensions to Crimean pensioners, but not to those who live in Donbass. Donbass is not in Russia, and such payments would be illegal.
For Russia there are only two options- take the whole part of Ukraine until Kiev under protection, or take nothing, as soon as there would be Nazis sitting in Kiev, there would be always instability in this region.

 

Well... yeah well.
It is still claimed nuclear bombing civilians is a happy thing. That dogma of the allied, to slaughter civilians, was applied all over Japan and Germany. And during that day and age, the US was an apartheid state. That is rather much like acting like a monster.

 

2 Questions:
1- Do you think Ukrainian government has some ties to German Nazis?
2- Do you think Ukrainian government did this to seem nice to German government?

 

What the hell? LOL! You could've come out and supported the Nazi's and I'd respect that statement. You saying the soviets were worse? That is so abhorrently wrong it's nauseous.

 

As far as I know there is no connection to Germany other than Merkel supporting the coup. The Nazis like the Right Sector were part of the coup and did most of the dirty work.

Right now there are two groups controlling Ukraine. One is the 'oligarch mafia' billionaires who run the country, and the other is the Nazis... like the paramilitary group Azov. Poroshenko who is an oligarch billionaire, fears the Nazis so he does their bidding to maintain control. This is why he is not able to follow the Minsk peace agreement.

In the meantime the mafia families in control, keep filling their pockets with money from the loans as the people go hungry. They use the excuse of Russian interference as an excuse for their problems. As for who pays these paramilitary Nazi groups, mostly the mafia families.

What is strange is that although there is rampant antisemitism in Ukraine, some of the mafia oligarchs are Jewish and yet they are supporting the Nazi armies financially.

You figure!

 

Thanks for your explanatory answers jiji... So, considering NAZIS are pretty much originated in Germany, and post-cold war ones that popped up in different parts of the EU have a common stance with the Ukrainian ones, and Merkel as a VIP knows it all too well... Can't we just say it straight that she is on the side of the NAZIS? Like practically at least?

 

I wouldn't say Merkel is a Nazi, since she is a globalist and destroying Germany because of it, but the hard handed German ways are part of her personality. Her relationships with different nations from what I noticed, tend to those that were allied with Germany at one time.

But the same probably holds true for most Germans. As an example she backed Germany's former ally Croatia in the war in Yugoslavia, to the detriment of the Serbs. A quarter of a million were thrown into refugee camps. And now she's backing her former ally in Western Ukraine against the Russian speaking sector.

 

Jiji... You should say she's a NAZI because they were in service of today's internationalists (globalists). Who's George W Bush? Who's his father George Herbert Bush? Who was his father Prescott Bush? Didn't he fund the Nazis during the WWII? Didn't his son G. Herbert Bush say:

So she being globalist is not something that excludes her from being a NAZI but actually "proves" that she is one!

By the way; Russia is one of the founders of the UN as well. Maybe that's why it doesn't react to evil doings in Syria in a way it suppose to do. Who knows?