Ukraine Claims Hungary Wants Its Territory

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Donor

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    How about doing something decent in your life Zalensky, or is that too much to ask, and let the Hungarians and Russyns in Ukraine determine their own destiny by letting them vote as to who they want to be with. Instead you're using them as cannon fodder so you, Soros, the criminal oligarchs and the neo nazis could hold on to lands which was never yours anyway.

    On Monday, Hungary's re elected PM Orban was added to Mirotvorets, a notorious online database that blacklists people, some of which have been murdered after being listed there. It labels Orban “an accomplice of Russian war criminals” and an “anti-Ukrainian propagandist - no doubt for maintaining a relationship with Vladimir Putin and not sanctioning Russia. The name Mirotvorets means peacekeepers. In other words they believe in peace through tyranny and by eliminating dissent.


    According to Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Alexey Danil, Budapest was informed of the Russian attack in advance and hoped to seize a part of Ukraine’s territory for itself. He added that there will be “consequences” for Hungary. This statement comes after Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban was added to the database listing enemies of the Ukrainian state.

    Earlier on Monday, it emerged that Hungary’s recently re-elected PM was added to Mirotvorets, (‘Peacemaker’) the notorious online database maintained to blacklist people considered enemies of Ukraine, some of whom have been murdered after being listed there. The website labels Orban “an accomplice of Russian war criminals” and an “anti-Ukrainian propagandist.”

    Hungary “openly talks about its cooperation with Russia. More than that, it was given early warning by [Russian President Vladimir] Putin that our country would be attacked,” Alexey Danilov, the secretary of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council (NSDC), said during a media appearance on Monday. He was answering if Hungary could block Ukraine’s admission to NATO.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/554878-ukraine-hungary-danilov-warning/

     
  2. Thedimon

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    If what Danilov said is true then Hungary must be expelled from NATO. As for threat from Hungary to Ukraine - well, with all the weapons they got and experience fighting, I don’t think Hungary will be a threat for quite a while.
     
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    Hey Ukraine and Hungary..... let's you and him fight each other after Putin is done making rubble out of the place.
     
  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Donor

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    Russia has bombed over 3 thousand military installations, oil depots and train stations that were carrying foreign arms from Poland. Unlike the US and Nato, Russia has not imposed any deliberate suffering on the civilian population. The cities still have electricity, water and internet.

    The rubble you see, are the towns and cities in the Russian speaking parts, and it did not come from the Russians, the DPR or the Chechens. The damage is from the Ukrainians during their retreat, when they turned their guns on the people and buildings during their scorched earth policy - or when the neo Nazis were using the Russian speakers as human shields and placing heavy arms in schoolyards, apartment building, or hospitals.

    Anyway I read that the Russians have already started to rebuild the areas they freed in Mariupol. They had suffered the worse destruction because of the embedded neo Nazi Azov battalion.
     
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    So Ukraine demolished Marioupol?

    You read that the Russians have already started to rebuild? Me too, I just read it here. Did you read it right after your wrote it?
     
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    If it's RT, it must be true. The only thing more incompetent and dumber than Russian generals is their propaganda apparatus.
    The kremlin can't even lie coherently.
     
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    I think Hungary , after being expelled from NATO , needs to be de-Nazified in a special military operation.
     
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    And then de-Nazify all of the EU and only accept Rubles for payment going forward. It could happen if we're not watchful.
     
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    Hungary is concerned with it's own national interest, nothing more. It's a small country of about 10 million citizens with two large, corrupt, and aggressive neighbors, Ukraine and Russia. They need to stay the hell out of this fight.

    I'll be in Budapest in a few weeks and will have a better feel for their situation when I return.
     
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    So-called 'Ukraine' will be shared among Russia and another neighbors.
    It can't exist alone
     
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    Spoken like a true naZi.
     
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    So-called Ukraine is doing a good job at beating Russian military into pulp:
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    Hungary?
    Does Hungary really want territories?

    Hungary is enjoying EU rules about vetoes.
    But probably in Hungary they know that it's better not to exaggerate, or EU will leave Hungary to the Russian "attention" [good luck!].
     
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    Are you joking?
    I haven't time to waste for empty discussion.
    Russia has enough time to conquer the entirely Ukraine without loss.
    All western 'sanctions' harm the West only, not Russia, the economy of Russia and Ruble are more strong as before the war
     
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    We spent a lot of time, effort and money getting Ukraine to be less corrupt.

    But I was wondering, how long, exactly, has it been since Ukraine invaded anybody?

    Because, since they want to stay on our good side, they won't be acting aggressively towards anyone that isn't currently invading them...
     
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    The true Nazis are in Ukraine only
     
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    Sure!
    Just, please, pass this along:
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    Nope, Ukrainians are black magicians now.
    Didn’t you get the memo?
     
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    Since 1991 Ukraine is a highly corrupted criminal failed 'state'
    It's difficult to grasp why we all must die in nuclear WWIII fighting for scary clown in Kiew
     
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    Western MSM don't report about Ukrainian animals and tortures of innocent.
    Even Hitler and his SS were more human as sadists of Ukrainian 'Army' or gangs of territorial defense
     
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    Suuuuure.
    Ukrainians are dangerous - they were developing biological weapons that target “Russian genotype” and are practicing black magic.
    Abrah-Kadabrah - and Moskva is turned into a submarine.
    I’m sure there are all these things you listed somewhere in there too.

    Scary stuff.
    Maybe, Russians should have stayed home, don’t you think? :lol:
     
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    Nazi Germany tried the same lies and the same tactics your naZi regime is now. They failed then and they will fail now.
     
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    No, you are.

    They have time, but their losses are already staggering..

    Russia is heading into a Great Depression. Too bad, so sad. Pretty much everyone will get hurt by this war, but Russia and Ukraine will get hurt the worst.

    "Oxford Economics, an analysis company, estimates the Russian economy could shrink by as much as 7% as a result of the sanctions. For comparison, that's almost double the amount the U.S. economy contracted during the Great Recession. Expect business failures, skyrocketing unemployment and countless miseries for the Russian people."
    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/...anctions-are-pinning-down-the-russian-economy

    It's funny how some take Russia propping up the ruble as a good thing. It's dumb. If it goes on for any time, the black market of the Soviet era will return. It risks a sudden collapse of the ruble, which could freeze the productive part of the economy solid. There are limits.

    "A few days ago, Russian authorities abruptly suspended the publication of statistics on the country's debt, trade, and oil production. The Bank of Russia cut the amount of data local banks have to disclose and stopped publishing its foreign-debt payment schedule, a slightly sensitive topic given the country is teetering on the brink of default after trying to make an interest payment on dollar-denominated bonds in rubles -- akin to servicing a Mustang with LADA parts. The Federal Assembly, controlled by the pro-Putin United Russia party, is fast-tracking a bill to ban lenders from sharing data abroad.

    In total, the actions amount to what is essentially a cover-up to mask the increasing toll of unprecedented sanctions levied against the nation:

    • Russia's Ministry of Economic Development reported that the 17.5% annual inflation in Russia as of April 8 was the highest since 2002. By comparison, the International Monetary Fund expects consumer prices in developing countries to increase by 8.7% in 2022.
    • The Mayor of Moscow said his city alone will face the loss of 200,000 jobs as a result of foreign companies pulling out of Russia. The country's failure to service its dollar bonds -- which S&P has already ruled a default -- will hamstring its ability to raise debt for years.
      https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/04/24/vladimir-putin-says-sanctions-havent-hurt-russias/


     
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    They have been absolutely criminal in treatment of their minority communities, particularly the ethnic Hungarians.
     
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    RT is a better news source than CNN.
     
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