Ukraine foreign minister defends Trump's call with Zelenskiy: 'I think there was no pressure'

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  1. Mrlucky

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    A top Ukrainian official on Saturday defended President Trump's July phone call with Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, during which Trump reportedly urged authorities in Kiev to investigate dealings in the Eastern European county by the son of former Vice President Joe Biden.

    Trump probably did ask the Ukraine to investigate Biden's son, among other things discussed during his conversation with the new Ukrainian president.

    Biden is on the record lying that he never spoke to his son about his business dealings so he's going to have to either lie some more or back peddle. Either way, old Joe is going to take a hit answering for his son and eventually maybe for himself as his corrupt son was probably aided by his VP dad.

    Trump doesn't have to answer for anything and as President, never did.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine-trump-zelensky-biden
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not going to get much of an answer from the Left if they think they can't hang Trump.
     
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    Any request such as this should be handled by high level official government business not at the presidential level by any government. The deatails should have been worked out at the lower government gigs before the brass said anything. What Donald Trump and Volodymyr Olesandrovych should have limited their talking to is " Volodymyr Olesandrovych how is the investigation into a possible problem with Hunter Biden going?". Volodiya should then say " I can have Prosecutor General Riaborshapka get a status over to AG Mr. Barr as to what if any evidence he may have existed and had been uncovered" .

    What neither Donnie nor Volodko should do is acknowledge that there is any quid pro quo or any transaction involving the question of did Young Hunter do anything wrong.

    Note Volodiya or Volodko is an approved knick name for a Ukrainian Volodymyr.
    Sort of like Vlad is for that Russian Vladimir guy or the Rumanian Vlad the Impaler. .
     
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    Some good questions from Greg Jarrett on the whole 'whistleblower' episode:

    "Despite the paucity of facts, some reasonable observations and conclusions can be drawn.

    1. It appears that an American spy in one of our intelligence agencies may have been spying on our own president. The complaint suggests that this intel agent was listening in on Trump’s conversation with a foreign leader. Was this person officially asked to listen to the conversation or was he or she secretly listening in? We don’t know.
    2. This agent, who is an unelected and inferior federal employee in the government hierarchy, apparently believes that it is his/her job to second-guess the motivation behind the words of the elected president, who is the most superior officer in the U.S. government.
    3. Article II of the Constitution gives the president sweeping power to conduct foreign affairs, negotiate with leaders of other nations, make demands or offer promises. The Constitution does not grant the power of review, approval or disapproval to spies or other unelected officials in the executive branch.
    4. The ICWPA law defines the parameters of an “urgent concern” complaint as an abuse or violation of law “relating to the funding, administration, or operations of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinions concerning public policy matters.” The president’s conversation with a foreign leader does not seem to fall under this whistleblower definition.
    5. It appears the acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) agrees with this assessment. His agency’s general counsel wrote a letter stating the complaint did not meet the ICWPA definition because it involved conduct “from someone outside the intel community and did not relate to intelligence activity,” according to a report by Fox News. This is why the DNI refused to forward the complaint to congress."
     
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    Hang on

    Is this the conversation that didn’t happen?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was fake news until trump tweeted it happened.
    Now it’s not a biggly deal.

    Seems to be a trend...
     
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    Hey if I was the Ukie Foreign Minister and if Russia had invaded a major province of my country and infested another province with Russian's terrorists I sure as schiest would not kick a 250,000,000 gift horse in the mouth.
     
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    Presidents ARE high level government officials. Even Harry Truman a democrat knew that "The Buck Stops Here" as at his desk. Pelosi and some of the other piss ants in congress only think they are equal. They are not.
     
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    The "victim" of Kavanaugh sexual assault says she was never assaulted.

    The "victim" of Trump's pressure says he was never pressured.

    Poor libs, their valiant fight to ignore reason and defeat facts is almost admirable.... well, almost LOL:D
     
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