Ukraine. One of the biggest coverups...ever

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  1. Reality

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    Saddam was removed ostensibly because of concerns over chemical weapons (which were eventually uncovered in Iraq, though only in minor concentration by the time we found them) but in reality he was removed for standing on his balcony waving a literal saber and saying, basically, come get some **** if you want it then. Relations between nations are prison rules, and you can't let that sort of thing pass.
     
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    Some of it leftover IMPERIAL Russian. They're fielding ****ing Maxim guns
     
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    We understand that's what he thinks. We just don't agree with him.
     
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    Irrelevent.
    His actions have done far more damage to his own people. Putin is the aggressor now to his own people. They are suffering now because of his actions, and their lives are now in jeopardy of being nuked due to his constant threats. We won't ever have to put our boots on the ground.

    Had he handled this diplomaticlly without acting like a terrorist, then he may have gotten his side of the story out.
     
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    No.... they seem to be working pretty good... they drop in from the top.. the most vulnerable spot.

     
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    Why would he think that wouldn't work. Trump has lied to the tune of racking in millions per month and he doesn't pay his bills. There's no reason any world leader has to think they can't gaslight millions of people. Trump proved that it's possible and apparently open-ended cash flow.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    Same thing that happened to Gaddafi, may be comming Putins way.
    His people have grown used to western privlages in the same manner Gaddafis people have. Russians don't want to be nuked either, so don't appreciate Putin acting like a terrorist using fear to expand territory.

    We don't gotta do squat aside maintain the sanctions. NATO alliance has nukes right at russias door. And he don't have the logistics to hit anyone back without annihilating himself.
     
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    Dude, what about that being delusional propaganda used to justify an unprovoked invasion don't you get?
     
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    If there is a cover up but the op knows it, it's not a cover up anymore.
     
  11. Reality

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    Anti tank is a category not limited to javelin anti tank missiles. Javelin's while being the most sophisticated man portable anti tank missile available, do not have a 100% kill rate even in a case of perfect operator performance. They're incredibly effective, but they're not a guaranteed one shot by any means.
    Anti tank includes LAWs and AT4s.
     
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    So you're validating Putin's actions in 2014 and in 2022. He was right to invade because Ukraine gave NATO the easiest access to Russia and it also allowed foreign finance to overtake Russian gas using Ukraine. If a military apparatus was setup it would've been impossible to dislodge NATO forces and it would caused another NATO war. Though that seems unlikely, it would probably end with Putin assassinated and a western puppet put in charge of Russia.

    It's no different if Mexico was working with the USSR and allowing the Communists to setup bases along the US-Mexican border.
     
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    Ah so we just took out a leader of a nation and killed millions because he said something we didn't like? Is NATO any different from Stalin's gulags/purges or the supposed Nazi concentration camps that killed six million?
     
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    Validating Russias suicide? That's all he is accomplishing.
    This move was never a valid option for Russia.
    Putin is realizing that.
     
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    It's the only option for Russia. NATO isn't about partnerships. NATO is all about subservience. If NATO can overthrow Russia and get their puppet in charge they'll turn Russia into another Western Degenerate puppet state where the masses just have to accept being debt slaves and being replaced in their own country.
     
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    Well when NATO overseas Russias disarmament now, it will all be because of Putin. What ever the concern was before, this is their current reality.
    Annihilation, or disarmament.

    I don't know if straight ousting Putin will be enough anymore. Maybe that could be a better scenario for the country.
     
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    It would happen either way because the goal of NATO is conquest. It's an organization run by corporations & banks that solely wants control over the globe. Just as they would disarm Russia they would disarm the USA if it ever tried to leave.
     
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    Except if that were true, Afganastan would be NATO territory. Too many holes in your theory for it to be accurate. No matter how you spin it, it puts Putin in the wrong.
    Putin made his country fall, not NATO.
     
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    Afghanistan was NATO territory for a decade+. The only problem is that their puppets had zero legitimacy and were crushed within a week. No one wanted anything to do with Western ideologies that push LGBTQP+.
     
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    So, then it's a failed idea by NATO. Seems they abandoned that principle and with that any fears Putin would have had. Thus making this invasion even more unnecessary.
     
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    So what is your concern?
    According to your video, most bio type weapons Ukraine has destroyed so Russia can't get them.
    If they are destroyed already, how will Ukraine use them.

    Why are you so worried about Russia and how they are doing? Or will be doing? Are you russian?
     
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    Do you think there's any major country that doesn't investigate bio weapons? To see how they react under different scenarios?
    To gather information on them?
    Or have them as arsenal as last resort?
     
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    Or it's such BS that no reputable news source is going down the conspiracy rabbit hole.

    If there was such truth, at least the RW rags like fox, newmaxx, and oan would have info for you.

    I am not a russian supporter, so I tend to not care if Russia is getting the short end of the stick.
    They've been an enemy of the world since the end of WW2.
    Not sure why you seem to think of them as friendly towards the world.

    No one but you is hoping for a NUKE war. The rest of the world is doing what they can to prevent one. That's why Ukraine is largely on it's own with troops and Air support.
    Think about the actions that have been taken, not some conspiracy of what you think is happening without evidence.
     
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    What part of prison rules and saber rattling was unclear? Though legitimately we did find chem weapons later in Iraq.
    Yes, there are no gulags or concentration camps so its qualitatively quite a bit better.
     
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    What evidence do you have for NATO aggression? And all they've conquered.
     

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