Ultra-Orthodox Jews Should Stop Killing Chickens, Animal Rights Activists Say

The entire meat industry is an ugly business. The slaughtering and killing of animals is what we need to do to get meat. It will never be any other way. Deal with it.

 

As I understand it, this thread has more to do with animal cruelty during religious practices rather than the meat industry.
I agree that the meat industry is a messy one

 

Oh, as far as Jewish rituals go, they have stone age, barbaric beliefs that require them to be cruel to animals and even slaughter them. It's a primitive religion that comes from a time when man was stupid.

 

That's your reply to me and Grau? Good job, buddy.

I don't eat the corpses of murdered animals, yet I can easily lift and pull heavy objects.

No, it's not, but this is off topic because, as Grau put it, "this thread has more to do with animal cruelty during religious practices rather than the meat industry." Even meat eaters should be disgusted with orthodox jews' cruelty against animals.

 

I don't know that any religion or era has a monopoly on stupidity.
There are, clearly, more protective laws now pertaining to animal cruelty than even 100 years ago.

 

No no, just to you. Grau’s posts I respect a little more.

 

There's a sect of Hinduism in Nepal that has a huge public worship meeting to sacrifice animals to a goddess every five years. In 2009 they killed 250,000 animals of many kinds. Men were running around with huge swords chopping the heads off of cows and water buffalo.

There's been a public outcry and in 2014 they only killed 50,000 animals.

I can't see it and would be running to get upwind away from the smell of it. But I'm not a Hindu, or of that sect.

 

Now THAT'S demented. Are they on some sort of drug during this ritual?
I, too can't imagine the smell or what they do with the dead animals.
It just goes to show that no single religion, nation, race or ethnic group has a monopoly on depravity.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadhimai_festival#/media/File:Gadhimai.jpg

Click the arrow to see the second photo. Many vids on youtube.

 

Oh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

I'm glad to hear that, Dutch. Grau is a very good poster.

 

In the following picture we see an orthodox jew who engages in this torture and murder of chickens, and he's giving the finger to an animal rights protester:



http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b71f69e201bb087468f2970d-pi

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/fa...f-the-day-hasidic-kapparot-in-action-678.html

And the well-known "liberal" jew Jay Michaelson defends the orthodox jew's disgraceful behavior:

Why This Hasid Was Right To Flip the Bird to Kapparot Protester

http://forward.com/opinion/spiritua...-to-flip-the-bird-at-anti-kapparot-protester/

 

By the Jews, you forgot to add. Everyone else do it in the correct, humane way.

 

OK, "As I understand it, this thread has more to do with animal cruelty during religious practices........by the Jews" rather than the meat industry.
I agree that the meat industry is a messy one"

Satisfied?

BTW, what was your point?

That was a pretty old post, did you just want to chat?

 

No, no, no.
Only Jews kill and eat chicken.
It is a known fact.
All the othwr people eat 'meat' that was grown in petri dishes in labratories.

 

They don't eat the chicken. The meat is thrown away after torturing the chicken

 

Sorry, you were misinformed.
They eat the chicken afterwards.
This is indeed a stupid tradition, but nothing more than this.
The whole idea is asking god to take the life of the chicken and spare the life of the human involved.
Some replace the chicken with their favorit fish. Some just do it with money they give to the poor.
Stupid zelots, better than zelots in some other religion that take lifes of other people to glorify their god.
So those Jews circle with the chicken above their head before dropping it into the soup. Stupid but nothing more

 

Not in this case. Hygiene reasons forbid the chicken being donated.

 

Those chickens are eaten afterwards.
BTW there are many orthodox Jews who looks at this ritual as blasphemy and idolatry.
Anyways, this is really much ado about nothing. Idiotic ritual and nothing else.

 

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Jews complain about how Western countries won't let them torture and murder animals:

https://www.jta.org/2017/11/27/news...in-western-europe-are-preparing-to-close-shop

 

Here's an article that was published today on the jewish news site JTA:

https://www.jta.org/2017/12/20/news...ritually-slaughtered-meat-from-public-schools

 

First they came for the Jews chicken
Then they came for my Kentucky fried chicken

Sorry to the protesters by I am not going vegan or vegetarian. I like my meats, and killing the animals is an inherently painful act the animals probably do not enjoy. I don't think there is a good way they will enjoy being killed. If the Jewish way is one that tries to lower the pain and suffering of the animal, which it would seem to be, then let them go for it. But when you end up having to industrialized your butchering in order to feed so many people there are going to be some problems. Hunt them down, and come up with better more humane ways, but I am not telling the Jews to stop eating cow because the animal rights activists are angry. Oh, and to all the religious people I am eating myself some tasty bacon too. If God didn't want me to eat bacon he would have made it taste like kale.

 

"Lower the pain and suffering"...like swinging the chickens over their head in an attempt to transfer their sins onto the chickens, i.e. to trick God into punishing these animals for sins that their jewish torturers commit? In my opinion, people who behave this way – regardless of their religious or ethnic background – are sick freaks.

 

I am not familiar with the force required to kill a chicken. Do they have to do this multiple times to the same bird, or is the bird killed on the first impact if done properly? I am seriously asking. If the swing is powerful to kill the bird on the first blow then what is the difference between that and other methods of killing the bird? They are going to be somewhat violent and gory. It 's killing an animal for food. They do not just come in those nice little packages in the supermarket. It is brutal.

Now if this prolongs the death of the chicken requiring multiple painful blows to extinguish life then there may be an argument for eliminating the ritual as needlessly torturous. However, at least they are seeing how the animal dies and showing some respect or thanks for their eating it. I have a really hard time coming down on religions for their rituals. If we are going to say they are wrong we are really beginning to dictate how you kill what you eat. Perhaps we should stop hunting because hunters don't kill the animal straight out all the time. I don't want to start making those laws or judgments considering we eat meat and killing is natural. If they want to say their sins are going into the chicken I don't really care.

 

The chicken is not hit against anything. It is just swung around and around causing the legs to break followed by breakages of other bones and rupturing of internal organs. The chicken often dies from brain haemorrhaging

 

If I remember correctly I may have read an article by that particular Chassidic Jewish thinker.

His ideas fit with the fact that about one near death experience in six involves a meeting with a previously deceased pet.