UN commission says Israel committed war crimes during Gaza border protests. <<MOD WARNING>>

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    Again the UN has reported that the "Jewish State" has committed war crimes against the occupied Palestinians.

    Israel committed war crimes and crimes against humanity during the Gaza border protests last year, a United Nations investigation found.

    The IDF were targeting health workers, children and the disabled.

    The commission conducted 325 interviews with victims and witnesses, as well as analyzed audio-visual material showing demonstrators being shot, according to a U.N. statement.

    “The Commission found reasonable grounds to believe that Israeli snipers shot at journalists, health workers, children and persons with disabilities, knowing they were clearly recognizable as such,” it said in a statement.
    https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/un-...mitted-war-crimes-during-gaza-border-protests

    Gaza is little more than the worlds largest concentration camp and the occupiers from the Jewish State control everything that goes in and out of the camp. The U.N. identified the protests at the boarder as being civilian political in nature. As is clear political protest is met with the shooting of children and health workers in what is claimed to be "the only democratic country in the region"!

    There are two Israel's the one that pretends to be a democracy and the one that controls by military rule in a land they have illegally occupied since 1967.

     
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    The thing is, like always here, is that Israel did this under hard circumstances.
    It's not easy to gun down people with a disability or a journalist.
    And I agree, the Jews could have killed far more if they tried.
    But why need to try hard when your opponent is armed with pebbles.
     
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    Don't bring pebbles to a gun fight.
     
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    do be shooting unarmed journalists and disabled people, to than cry,... of why do them people hate the Jew state. And I have yet to see Jews march around protesting "not in my name". I know you lot hold Muslims responsible collectively... (even though they are doing the fighting against extremists on a large scale) so you know... it's time to look in that mirror.
     
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    The Israelis have been for their entire existence in the same position we found ourselves in 1940. Whatever they do to preserve themselves is entirely justified.
     
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    No we did not steal the UK from anyone.
     
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    Actually, there are several ethical & decent Israeli Jews who protest the Occupation however the two are treated very differently by IDF as outlined in the article below*.

    Unfortunately, almost half of Israeli Jews support the systematic ethnic cleansing(1) and I'm afraid that the ethnic cleansing of Palestine will only intensify with Israel's government becoming even more Right Wing


    *"Israel lets Jews protest the occupation. It doesn’t let Palestinians."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...944de66d9e7_story.html?utm_term=.5c539492fc5d
    EXCERPTS "The images and video of Israeli soldiers shooting live ammunition into masses of mostly unarmed Palestinians on the other side of the Gaza border fence over the past several weeks horrified observers around the world. Starting March 30, Israeli troops suppressing protests in Gaza killed 118 people and wounded more than 13,000, including 1,136 children.

    Meanwhile, several hundred Israelis, predominantly Jews, had gathered in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv a couple of days earlier, also to protest Israeli military tactics in Gaza. Not a single arrest was made, and no police brutality was reported. They even blocked roads, but police did not interfere."CONTINUED


    (1) “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

    EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found.
    A study carried out by the Pew Research Centre found that around one in five adults questioned “strongly agreed” with the controversial statement, which amounts to ethnic cleansing under some definitions. "CONTINUED
     
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    They should shoot anyone who threatens their existence.
     
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    Nor did they.
     
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    like the free press.... since you lot are shooting at reporters so it's harder for the world to know you lot are also shooting at children and disabled people. Can you name an other country who does that too?
     
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    I find your comment as confusing as it is confused..

    There is no comparison between Israel's founding in 1948 on land belonging to native residents by murderous Zionist Gangs from Europe to America in any part of America's history.
    Also, only one person who signed Israel's Declaration of Independence was from Israel-Palestine.
    The rest were from Europe & elsewhere far away
    At least 3 of Israel's elected P.M.s were mass murdering terrorists who would have been hung by the British if they'd been caught.

    Re:
    By "preserve", I assume you mean "defend".

    If you'll look at a map of Palestine in 1948 showing land belonging to the Palestinians and a map today, you'll see that Israel is more interest in aggressive expansion, not " defending" itself.

    What is most objectionable to most of the world is Israel's calculated ethnic cleansing via the "Provoke-then-Massacre." M.O.(1).
    In other words, IDF attempts to provoke Palestine's native residents by stealing their land etc so that when the Palestinians respond, Israel can use its vastly superior weaponry to exterminate as many native Palestinians as possible(2), (3) and continue building illegal & internationally condemned "Settlements"

    If you really believe that: "Whatever they do to preserve themselves is entirely justified.", why aren't Palestine's native residents justified in doing whatever they need to "preserve" themselves?





    (1) "Moshe Dayan, in his diaries said: "Our strategy was always to provoke the Arabs and get an appropriate response so we could attack and smash them."
    http://www.sott.net/signs/signs154.htm


    (2) "The Israel Massacre Forces"
    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-the-israel-massacre-forces-1.5962852

    EXCERPT "The shooting on the Gaza border shows once again that the killing of Palestinians is accepted in Israel more lightly than the killing of mosquitoes"CONTINUED


    (3) "Independent investigation details Israel’s deliberate targeting of civilians in Gaza"
    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/01/independent-investigation-deliberate/
     
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    Actually the Muslim countries are the only ones who do that.
     
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    12% of the population in 1900 rose to 36% when they stole the land from the indigenous population.
     
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    yeah, but the're all dead now.
     
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    What we will see as this thread develops is a lot of people trying to deflect with muslims did this or muslims did that.
     
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    sometimes you have to look at reality.
     
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    I think sanctions are a war crime
     
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    You're talking about Muslims and Jews, so there is no deflection.
    If we brought up Christians or Hindu, that would be a deflection.
     
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    You go source me a Muslim nation that sends it's army to kill the press, disabled people, health workers and children.
     
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    What did Muhammed do with the disabled he captured.
     
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    Everything that comes up here is some gimp called Vester Lee Flanagan II (October 8, 1973 – August 26, 2015), known professionally as Bryce Williams who went postal. Has nothing to do with a Muslim government, Islam or whatever. Just typical American behavior.
     
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    I asked first. So please comply with my request and source me a country that sends its army to kill, the press, disabled, children and health workers.
     
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    As I said they will try to deflect with the Muslims did this or that, as we know this is not a religious war it is a simple land grab!
    Israel promotes it as a Jew verses Muslim conflict then plays the antisemitic card, the holocaust and the poor victim card.
     
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    My bad, I was too hasty, posted the wrong one.

    Here is some you might like

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=reporter executed by muslom&qs=n&form=QBVR&sp=-1&pq=reporter executed by muslom&sc=0-27&sk=&cvid=52193D63112A43EF80B087469ABBB553
     
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