Undercover Epicenter Nurse

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    :roflol:

    Do you seriously believe that medical doctors who complete death certificates earn minimum wage and are desperate to keep their jobs?

    :roflol:
     
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    That's what I've heard.
     
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    Your strawman fallacies are be coming quite annoying.
     
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    Well, then let us know when you actually have evidence. So far only one side has actually been willing to speak in the language of facts and evidence. There's probably a reason for that.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Then YOU should start posting SUBSTANTIVE content so you won't have to deal with my posts EXPOSING the ABSENCE of meaningful content in your posts.
     
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    Zdogg used appeal to authority by emphasizing her merely being a nurse. He appealed to the stone by numerous times denigrating her position without presenting a counter argument. He used strawman and ad hominem to discredit her position. That’s the short list. Again, the nurses position is weak. So is Zdogg’s.

    And yes, spreading misinformation that RT-PCR tests produce high rates of false positives is a big deal and severely damaged his credibility to discuss science. You can’t have it both ways, good fellow. Criticism of weak arguments and misinformation using weak arguments and misinformation is...well...it’s hypocritical and further damages credibility of real science.
     
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    Complete and utter bovine excrement on YOUR part!

    This is what ZDogg actually said about her.

    https://zdoggmd.com/undercover-nurse/

    That is called using FACTUAL RESEARCH into the individual in order to determine their CREDIBILITY on the subject matter. Since there is ZERO credible support for the Anti-Vaxxer bovine excrement ZDogg is CORRECT that she NULLIFIES her own medical credentials by not only EMBRACING but also PROMOTING the moronic Anti-Vaxxer Conspiracy drivel.

    Since you have FAILED to provide even a SINGLE example of those bogus allegations yet AGAIN there is NOTHING to REFUTE since that is MERELY your OPINION which has already been proven to be factually wrong above.

    So let's continue with the ONLY other attempt to "substantiate" your drivel.

    You are spouting utterly UNWARRANTED criticism for his remarks about false positives given the TIME CONTEXT as to WHEN he made that statement.

    https://www.theweek.co.uk/107637/coronavirus-are-false-positive-tests-skewing-infection-rates

    Here is ZDogg's video and transcript and this is what he ACTUALLY said BACK in JUNE!

    https://zdoggmd.com/undercover-nurse/

    It is DISINGENUOUS to DENIGRATE his statements that were made in the CONTEXT of the available KNOWLEDGE at that point in time.

    However YOU made a SUPERCILIOUS allegation WITHOUT checking ALL of the FACTS.

    By doing so YOU effectively DOWNGRADED your OWN credibility to discuss science.

    Sad!
     
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    All the fallacies I’ve mentioned are in your post #51 in this thread. As is the claim by Zdogg that RT-PCR tests produce false positives. He is specifically referring to PCR when he says RNA swab tests. Above you are talking about antibody tests which do in fact have false positives in certain circumstances with certain tests.

    However, by the nature of how PCR tests work, it’s virtually impossible to get false positives. Unfortunately you don’t understand the science well enough to differentiate between the two types of tests. Time has nothing to do with it. Since the development of PCR decades ago they have never returned false positives. Isn’t possible.

    So now you have helped me again show the lack of knowledge on your part. You confuse RT-PCR tests with antibody tests. LOL.
     
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    I didn't say i had evidence. I said it is a possibility.
     
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    You didn't address what isaid.
     
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    Duly NOTED for the record that you did NOT even ATTEMPT to address ALL of the other FALSEHOODS that you posted about ZDogg because you CANNOT defend them.

    Sad!
     
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    What other falsehoods? The dude used formal and informal fallacies. The dude doesn’t know the difference between RT-PCR and antibody tests (and neither do you). Those were my only claims and I’ve demonstrated them to be true. You are welcome to point out my error in anything I’ve said on PCR and antibody tests.

    I suggest you educate yourself and use some critical thought when reading stuff like Zdoggs transcript. Just because someone makes a point you agree with doesn’t mean the logical and factual foundation of their argument is sound.

    I’ll reiterate. I kind of like Zdogg. I’ve watched his stuff before and much of it was educational, factual, and entertaining. I think he’s a good dude. But on this one he done messed up.
     
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    Kindly REFRAIN from PROJECTING your OWN failures onto others.

    I provided FACTS that exposed YOUR fallacies that you could NOT defend.

    That you are incapable of supporting your fallacious allegations about ZDogg means that you revert to type and engage your kneejerk response of puerile ad homs which says VOLUMES.

    Sad!
     
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    Lol. You are both incorrect on testing that he referenced. I encouraged you to point out my errors. You can not so it seems you are the one projecting because I clearly demonstrated your errors and Zdogg’s. You presented blatant misinformation here on PF. I called it out. I’m sorry your feelings interfere with your ability to accept facts, but that’s what I appreciate most about our discussions. It shows others how dangerous authoritarianism coupled with willful denial of facts is. So again, I’m grateful for your participation.
     
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    :roflol:

    Thank for PROVING that I am 100% CORRECT about your responses being kneejerk puerile ad homs.

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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    There are 2 ways for a person to be fooled, observed Kierkegaard. One is to believe a falsehood, and the other is to REFUSE to believe what is true.

    In this time of universal deception, the latter is perhaps demonstrated more frequently than the former.
     
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    Facts I’ve presented in contrast to your misinformation is knee jerk ad hom?

    You keep things interesting around here for sure. :)
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your OPINION is NOT a substitute for actual credible FACTS!
     
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    Excellent point.
     
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    I provided facts. You provided opinion. Your opinion is incorrect. I showed your opinion to be incorrect by providing actual facts concerning PCR vs. antibody tests. Again, I apologize for the damage to your feelings caused by my undisputed presentation of those facts.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    You posted NOTHNG but your OPINION regarding ZDogg and have consistently FAILED to substantiate your BOGUS opinion when challenged to do so.

    Instead you resort to your kneejerk puerile ad homs.

    Sad!
     
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    No, you posted erroneous opinions on testing as did Zdogg. I simply corrected your errors. I did not present opinions on the matter. I presented facts. If I hadn’t you would be able to present something based on science to refute my presentation. We all know you can’t. Your continued whining about being dead wrong on the science is at this point amusing.
     
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    No, you posted erroneous opinions on testing as did Zdogg. I simply corrected your errors. I did not present opinions on the matter. I presented facts. If I hadn’t you would be able to present something based on science to refute my presentation. We all know you can’t. Your continued whining about being dead wrong on the science is at this point amusing.
     
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    The content of your own post PROVES you WRONG again!
     
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    If presenting facts is wrong in your opinion I’m happy to be wrong. :)
     

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