UNESCO Passes Resolution Critical of Israeli Conduct in Jerusalem and Gaza

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  1. Dutch

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    And Egypt? Does Egypt bears any responsibility for the Gaza Strip?
     
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    Why would you think so?
     
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    Most of the world believes the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to Israel's occupation of Palestine:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1682640.stm


    "Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the protection of civilian persons in time of war states: "The occupying power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own population into the territories it occupies."

    "Within the international community the overwhelming view is that Article 49 is applicable to the occupation of the West Bank including East Jerusalem, the Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights.

    "Almost the entire international community, including allies of Israel, have referred to the situation in these territories as occupation.

    "The position that the 4th Geneva Convention does apply to the West Bank, Gaza and Golan Heights is supported by the International Committee of the Red Cross, UN bodies, and the International Court of Justice.

    "Israel is a party to the Geneva Conventions, and bound by its obligations."

    Can you point to any credible legal opinion to the contrary outside of Israeli courts?
     
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    Why would you think not? Does not Egypt has 12 kilometers border with their Palestinian brothers? If I was someone in the authority in Egypt, I'd throw whole 12 kilometers wide open to help poor, suffering Palestinians.

    Instead, Egypt keeps its crossing into Gaza under lock, occasionally opening it for a few people at the time, in one direction. In. Not out.

    Why?
     
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    "Israel Incapable of Telling Truth About Water It Steals From Palestinians
    Water is the only issue in which Israel (still) finds it difficult to defend its discriminatory, oppressive and destructive policy with pretexts of security and God.
    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.726350"

    "Water is the only issue in which Israel (still) finds it difficult to defend its discriminatory, oppressive and destructive policy with pretexts of security and God. That is why it must blur and distort this basic fact: Israel controls the water sources. And being in control, it imposes a quota on the amount of water the Palestinians are allowed to produce and consume. On average, the Palestinians consume 73 liters per person per day. Below the recommended minimum. Israelis consume a daily 180 liters on average, and there are those who say even more. And here, unlike there, you will not find thousands who consume 20 liters a day. In the summer."
    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.726350
    btw, who controls the air space over Area A?
     
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    The conventions apply since it's all part of the old Mandate of Palestine. Besides that Israel is a signatory to the Geneva Conventions. Hence they apply to the Israeli government in and outside Israel.
     
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    Our prisons are full with terrorists that get released after they serve their time for murder, we dont have gallows or limb chopping stations - how's that for human decency ?
     
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    Well Jerusalem was never "Palestinian" so their demands to stop "stealing" are not relevant, they might as well demand to divide Mecca to Sunni and Shia indipendant states.
     
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    I dont understand why we need to invest in the WB for a Palestinian state, they need to do it, they need to get the land they can and establish a state - then work of electricity and well digging, roads, whatever.
     
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    Egypt does not control the airspace over Gaza or its coastal waters or its population registry, so, no, I would say Israel bears major responsibility for the misery of Gaza's inhabitants.
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    Israeli water management has pretty much ruined both aquifers and the water table, but it they would get out of the West Bank, Golan Heights and Shaaba farms, the Palestinians can work it out.
     
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    Why did you even bring up compensation? Isn't Israel still getting reparations?
     
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    Its not because water managment it's because the whole area dries up, very little rain in the pass 10 years, aquifers dry up as well, Israel cut its agriculture for that reason, Israel already annexed the Golan and what you call Shaaba farms - I dont see how thet relate to water in the WB regardless, I dont recognize the whole WB as being Palestinian, your solution can be countred by transfer the Palestinians to Jordan, that will also fix the water problem.
     
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    Those that lost their homes deserve compensation, I dont deny that, I think Arab countries that had a hand and a foot in the wars that led to the Palestinian loss should also chip in but they still deserve compensation.
     
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    I am not speaking of 10 years of drought. I am speaking of Israeli mismanagement of water assets for the past 50 years. The aquifers have been overpumped and since few settlements in the occupied West bank have sewage treatment, raw sewage is usually pumped downhill on the Palestinians.
     
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    But they do control the land border, they do control half of Rafah which is part of Gaza strip, they also had civilian control there till Israel conqured them and they are part of same nation, is that picture related to Gaza condition or should we judge it by emotions ?
     
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    And your point in over pomping is that 400,000 Israelis use more water than 1,500,000 Arabs in the same area, right, it's that time for evidance again.
    We **** over Palestinian cities now......anything else you want to add ? what about pouring poision ?
     
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    You can easily look it up.. Water from the aquifers is also pumped into Israel proper.. and WHO states Israelis only allows Palestinians 1/5 as much water. water use. The 1967 war was all about grabbing water assets. That's why the Israelis planned it for so long.
     
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    The picture reveals which nation is currently murdering children in Gaza.
    [​IMG]
    It's not Egypt.
     
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    Here's what I found:
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    Israel says region's intense heatwave combined with Palestinian Water Authority's refusal to approve additional infrastructure had led to 'old and limited pipes being unable to transfer all the water needed.
    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.726132"

    Im tired of that Arab propaganda that we planned 67 war, know what, either way - you started it and we won it or we managed to fool Nasser and Hussien into a war - I wouldnt be messing with Israelis if I was an Arab, obviously you cannot handle us. best reduce your national ego and sort an agreement you can achieve, who knows what those crazy Jews plan next.
     
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    Moshe Dayan is and Arab propagandist?
     
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    Its sad but has no relevance on Gaza situation, it's not an argument to allow terrorists free naval passage.
     
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    oh for **** sake he was talking about Syria not Egypt and not Jordan, the messege Eshkol sent to King Hussein to butt out of the upcoming war, specificlly "it is not your war, stay out, engage and we will enage on you" IS related.
     
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    He was talking about Syria, Lebanon, the Golan Heights, Shaaba Farms and West bank. Read what he said "they coveted more fertile land and water".
     
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    I dont read propaganda sites, give a link,

    I dont know why but the Arab refusal to take any responsibilty surprises me every time, how do you explain Nasser ralies in Egypt, the clear call for our destruction, closing the strains (and dont give me that nonesense of it not harming Israel, he made a clear act of war!) the Tanks and Jets in Sinai - both sides clearly spoke of war you cannot deny that, there is not a single honest poster among you it's amazing :)
     
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