UNHOLY ALLIANCE: Did US Intelligence Agencies Collude With Clinton To Influence The 2016 Election?

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  1. rahl

    rahl Well-Known Member

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    uh, because there is actual evidence of trump campaign members colluding with Russia, lol. See, that's how this works. When one extraordinary claim has evidence to support it, it's legitimate. When one claim is pure batshit crazy nonsense, like most of the threads the thread creator makes, that is an entirely different thing.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In the fury by both Democrat and Republican career politicians in Congress that someone outside their circle became president, the investigation was limited to ONLY investigating Trump's campaign and NOT the broader question of illegal influences - foreign and domestic - in the election. Congress - both parties - literally voted to attack Trump, while also voting to protect everyone else no matter how criminal their conduct.
     
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    Sometimes, there are just too many dots for folks with a superficial view of the world to understand. That's why liberals seem to have latched onto the Russian collusion theory. Because, well, it's easy. Not many dots, some salacious sex exploits to keep them entertained, etc.

    The real problem is what many of us have been saying/writing since the election itself. The left simply never expected that they would ever get caught, because, the queen was anointed prior to anyone ever casting a ballot. It was easy. The Rino establishment had all of their chits lined up to leverage a significantly fault filled ms Clinton, and they expected that they would get to force ms Clinton into accepting a "few" of their demands here and there, all in the name of not having to be actually responsible or govern. The left were all too enamored with the idea of a first female president. No other motivation necessary to turn a blind eye to the egregious illegal acts of the DNC against their very socialist voice, the Bern.

    Obama had his preference, as well as all the evidence necessary to continue to leverage Hillary as President. The play was all prescripted. Except for one thing. Folks weren't actually willing to ignore all of the abuse of power, the active weaponization of the agencies against the Bern, and then Trump. The real issue for the democrats was that they overplayed their hand, tipping the real glimpses of tyranny that laid just under the surface. So, the new plan was to simply gin up (using the actual intel services that had already proven to be reliable and pliable to the administration -- because they then got leverage over said Obama administration ) a new treason. Actively using the services to attempt to entrap an opponent in a presidential campaign. Yes, this is truly bigger than Watergate every attempted to claim. This was no less the use of the federal government, in concerted effort, to attack a political opponent to ensure that what would have been the absolute weakest president ever would then enter office beholden to everyone.

    You might not like Trump but you at least have to like the above less. And once you determine that the set of facts above is, for the best interests of the nation, something that has to be exposed for the criminality that it describes. Everyone involved, from Obama to Hillary, to the agency heads, to the actual field players is responsible and answerable to the people of our nation for their crimes. The congress of this nation must take the necessary action to bring all of these folks into court, to be tried for their collective treason to this nation.
     
  4. Oh Yeah

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    I'm pretty sure that no-one has been convicted of collusion with Russia to influence a campaign.
     
  5. rahl

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    pretty sure I never said anyone was convicted
     
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    You said there was actual evidence of Russian collusion. Yo better contact Muller, he hasn't been able to find any.
     
  7. rahl

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    uh, are you completely unaware of his investigation? lol
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean the investigation being conducted by a Republican attorney, appointed by the Republican acting attorney general appointed by donald's administration?

    You think that when it comes to persecuting Clinton and Obama, we'll get a Democratic attorney conducting the investigation who is appointed by a Democratic attorney general office official who is appointed by Clinton or Obama?

    No, me neither.
     
  9. Oh Yeah

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    Lets see: Flynn - charged with lying over something that wasn't even a lie. Mueller used Gestapo tactics using threats against his son.
    Manafort - All charges against him have to do with things before Trump even announced his bid for president.
    Papadopoulos - Lying to the FBI.

    So far no collusion.
     
  10. rahl

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    so that's a no then. you aren't aware of his investigation.
     
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    Show me where Trump is guilty of collusion. You do know that collusion is not a crime.
     
  12. rahl

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    Strawman
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    There are 2 ways for a person to be fooled: 1 is to believe something that isn't so, and the other is to refuse to believe what IS so.

    The FBI is a political organization, and has been so since early in the last century. The fiascos with J. Edgar Hoover and Joe McCarthy demonstrated that.
     

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