Unified Field Theory and a Universal Source of Energy

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    If time space is one, then can energy be found and even utilised within it?

    Can we place energy from solar winds into conduits somewhere else to generate power to power cities and transport as well as high powered mechanics that rely on different speeds of space time like time travel?

    Is there a universal energy source we can tap into in the universe, and could the unified field theory be a means to harvest it?

    If the energy of stars and black holes are required, then can we also transfer their solar winds or gravitational pulls via the quantum field into practical uses to feed time travel/faster than light travel/power plants?
     
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    I'm under the impression that the vacuum of space has, as part of itself, the ability to create energy out of nothing (zero-point energy), but I'm also under the impression that it requires mass in order to activate that power. Don't take my word for it. I have very little knowledge of actual physics.
     
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    Yeah, look up zero-point energy. I believe Nicola Tesla was working on that way back when.
     
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    I think the point is that vacuums have energy, rather than vacuums have an ability to create energy.

    Physicists do talk about vacuum energy and witness experiments where vacuum energy becomes mass and then that mass becomes energy again. Particles come into existence and then pass out of existence again.

    Einstein's equations point out that mass = energy, so the movement between energy and mass should be what we expect.
     
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    I think it would be best to stick to physics on this stuff, otherwise you're asking about science fiction - where the answer is always yes and always meaningless.

    So far, physics promises us there is no time travel and no travel faster than the speed of light.

    We can collect energy in various ways. We can also move collected energy from one location to another in various ways.

    Collecting energy from the sun is what solar pannels do. Today, we're efficient enough at it that for most homes in the USA, installing solar is a financially sound direction. Also, satellites that stay reasonably close to the sun use solar power. Once they get out to Saurn, or whatever, that doesn't provide nearly enough energy, so all such satellites take along some form of nuclear power pack.

    If we had our own pet black hole, there are various ways we could use that as an energy source. For example, we could feed it asteroids and collect the emissions that don't get totally sucked in. Would that be a little like solar pannels or is there some other method? I don't know. That would be in space only, as we don't want any black holes on Earth for obvious reasons. So, holding onto the black hole, feeding it, collecting the energy and moving the energy to where it is needed would each be gigantic issues where we most likely have no solution.
     
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    Really cool! I hope this proves out.

    It sounds like it would generate miniscule amounts of current.

    I wonder if it wouldn't be a way to power nano devices that need amost no current.
     
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    Can we or can't we in theory manipulate time space and, what was the USS Eldridge "doing" in that experiment in camouflage using the unified field theory @WillReadmore, The Philadelphia Experiment?
    That sounds like a pretty nifty way to 'get around'.
    If we had our own pet black hole in space, can't we transfer the energy from it a safe distance away to somewhere like Earth in Einstein's Unified Field Theory?

    Guess the answer is no, or nobody knows because it hasn't been done, or is impossible (according to current convention).
     
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    That "Philadelphia Experiment" was a hoax of known origin. And, nothing was made to "disappear".

    At least David Copperfield had the good grace to make the Statue of Liberty appear to disappear - lol.

    If we fed an asteroid into our pet black hole much of the energy (represented as mass) would be sucked in, but it wouldn't necessarily suck in all the energy (mass) of the asteroid. There would be energetic atomoic and subatomic emissions of some form that would come from our side of the event horizon. We could gather the emissions using some technology - perhaps a little like solar panels??

    Then, if we wanted to move that energy somewhere else, we'd have to figure that out. We do have ways of doing that. It seems certain that there would be huge opportunity for loss in the various steps.

    And, if I heard of a plan to move a black hole near Earth to solve all our energy problems, I'm pretty dang sure I'd oppose that.
     
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    So much of a hoax that the person who initially proposed it, a man named Carlos Miguel Allende is even on the record as admitting that the story is fake. The USS Eldrige's war time service record is publicly available as are the service records (periods of service) of the crew who served on her. So one more time - it never happened. So if you insist on on discussing it can you please do so on the Conspiracy Theory Sub-Forum because that's where it belongs. Not in the Science Sub-Forum.
     
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    Technically what they've invented is a new type of thermo-electric generator. The circuit as described in the article directly converts heated doped graphene into electrical current. There's no 'free energy' because something has to heat the graphene to begin with. Providing the economics work out it might be prove useful in things like laptop computers where some of the waste heat produced by the conventional chips can be converted into electricity (with heat being redistributed around the machine in the process) but that laptop still has to be plugged into the good old fashioned steam/solar powered electricity grid at some point.
     
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    If you were to hear that some country had decided to move a black hole near Earth in order to benefit from it's energy, would you promote that?
     
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    Well, I wouldn't call a story where some of the crew end up embedded in the steel hull of the ship to be "pretty nifty."

    But, hey. If you like the Philidelphia Experiment, then check out: Thomas Townsend Brown - Wikipedia
     
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    Suction faster than matter but not faster than energy? Like juicing matter for the energy that powered the nucleus at a subatomic level?

    Not the black hole closer to Earth, the energy generated from one transmitted among subspace if you've got to; to physically transfer the output of one.
    The distance to transmit or transverse could be light years away for all it mattered which organically, time dilation results in huge amount of lags and never a present now that's universal as time takes how fast you're travelling relative to another point and the further the 2 points is a lot over distance and gravitational effect on time over such a vast distance makes now off for both parties relative to one another; that's the 'organic way', but not the way for invention; questions;
    What is sub space?
    Is sub space fictitious or real or what?
    What is dark matter?
     
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    Maybe (not sure) there is a misunderstanding of black holes here.

    Black holes do not have emissions. Period. That's why they are called black. Absolutely nothing comes out of them.

    What CAN happen is for matter to get near enough to a black hole to enter a decaying orbit into the black hole.

    The forces of the black hole tearing apart that mass will allow emissions to escape. But, it's not escaping from inside the black hole - it is escaping from matter that is close to the event horizon (the closest approach point beyond which there is no escape) to get torn up.

    That's the only way I know of for a black hole to turn matter into some energetic radiation that could be gathered. If it's not being fed, then it's not going to help, as nothing is going to escape it. You have to allow it to disrupt something that is outside the black hole. And, I'm sure hoping you aren't proposing that might be Earth!

    I don't know what you mean by "transmitted among subspace".
     
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    Then put the generator at the event horizon and harvest what's generated there..

    Travel for energy from the event horizon to Earth outside of space time but still in existence, thus making the energy transmitted at the dangerous event horizon far far, far away, travel to Earth and other things such as star ships and colonies and space stations;
    Can we transmit energy outside of timespace in theory, can we do anything outside of time space, is there such a thing as subspace?
     
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    Small point of order technically they emit Hawking Radiation (at least in theory) but that is overwhelmed by the vast amount of energy falling into the event horizon and will only result in most black holes shrinking or 'evaporating' eons from now when the amount of 'normal' matter left in the universe is so low that the emission rates of HR start to exceed 'consumption' rate of normal matter. At which point the hole starts to lose weight. A bit like like fat kid at boot camp.
     
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    True. I did skip that, trying to be as simple as possible concerning the objecive of a new energy source for Earth.
     
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    Nothing withstands being at the event horizon. So, you most definitely don't want to put anything there.

    For example, we don't have to be at the sun to collect radiation from the sun. Being closer than Saturn is sure a big help. Likewise, we don't have to be at the event horizon to collect emissions from the catastrophe going on there. But, being within a safe distance yet close enough for there to be energy worth gathering would be important.

    The subsequent paragraphs are solidly within science fiction. So, the answer is always "yes" yet always meaningless to the one universe we have.

    I think the first steps would be to wring all the science fiction out of this idea.
     
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    Isn't sub atomic energy withstood at an event horizon?
    When you said when fed a comet's matter so rapidly black holes take the matter, leave the energy at that point - ergo; if we were to transmit that energy to collect it to charge something somewhere else closer to where you want to use it (or store it even).
    In essence, in unified field theory, is there a way to transmit energy manipulating time space with psychics pending how different particle types work and mix with each other and how we can use them.
     
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    Brain fart;
    If we mix particles up like we do liquids or gasses, can different events happen?
     
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    Brain fart two, is smashing them so fast in colliders the correct way to mix them or do we have to heat them up?

    Who's for; explosion to create time hole, rip in space time by thermonuclear heat and tachyon reaction a safe distance away from Earth's current location (ever moving planet orbiting an ever moving sun) and work on how to travel space with unified field theory later; let's work on heating up tachyons in space.

    Instead of kinetic energy, why not use heat and wave lengths (like microwaves) to 'cook' particles and see what's found then.

    We take a simple atom, and cook it, not smash it; or...
    We still smash it, but extract and mix.

    I gather different compounds have different particles.
    Is there one compound they all share?
    Can we not just extract that then add to that common denominator to build our own particles.
    Question;
    Could anyone/is anyone working with tachyon particles?
     
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    Let's pair a particle to harvest energy, converting the energy into the paired states and dispensing energy from the paired states; one being located at the source of energy be it an AA battery or collected from the block hole's belly soaking up all that energy before it joins the matter, and one being located where you want the power to go.

    Putting AA or AAA batteries in in Hong Kong and use it for your TV remote in London transfer / transmission, like harvesting energy not spent at the event where matter is lost to the singularity but not energy, and use it to power something closer to home and out of the energy source's harm's way.

    How do you design a particle to soak up energy and how do you transfer it to any paired matrix/mechanism/'goings on' and then how do you release it to be a particle that not only 'soaks up' but 'expunges'; and how do you lock a paired particle making for 1 way traffic of energy in at one end and out at another?
     
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