Universal human rights?

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  1. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    Cultural relativism in its true, Boasian meaning, says that each culture has be interpreted within its own context as this is the only way of ever reaching an objective understanding of the culture in question.
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    Can universal human rights really exist in a culturally diversed world? Is it possible to even talk about human rights as "universal" if we are to be cultural relativists? Should institutions like the UN etc try to enforce other cultures to follow the concept of "universal human rights" by conforming to UN's own (biased) standards and perceptions?

    Sure, there is a decleration of human rights published by the UN and on a denotational level, all of them sound all lovely and beautiful. However, issues arise when one dwell into the connotations- What is percieved as an "uniiversal right" by x might as well be considered a violation of such by y. For example the average Westerner would argue a woman's right to anortion is an "universal human right" backed up by "every individuals right to their body", meanwhile the Catholic would argue abortion violates the very same right.

    More classical examples include FGM/FGC or women in MENA wearing hijab/burqa. Can, with cultural relativism in regard, a cultural practise be a "violation of human rights"? Advocating for a ban of these practises would of course iinfringe on people's right to express their own culture and would very much be a case of cultural imperalism where West sets the rules and has the interpretative prerogative.

    Should the world perhaps leave each community alone and let "human rights" develop in their own context and condition? Wouldn't this, when all comes around, be the most "human rights thing" to do?
     
  2. DZero

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    1. Establish a one world government to give us all rights.
    2. Use the UN to enforce global human rights.
    3. Abolish the state(only states can grant rights, but are not needed without a government to violate freedom).
    4. Possible other ways.

    I don't think of human rights as a good thing though.
     
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    All that is nonsense.....

    I'm tired of this one world government hippie commune crap.... If we had a one world government it would resemble Stalins USSR.
     
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    Just a few ways for universal human rights, a one world government could give us all rights, but I totally disagree with it. A government could take many forms, it doesn't HAVE to resemble the old USSR.
     
  5. DoctorWho

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    I suppose you have never read 1984 by George Orwell ???
    I highly recommend that you do.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

    " When you make love you're using up energy; and afterwards you feel happy and don't give a damn for anything. They can't bear you to feel like that. They want you to be bursting with energy all the time. All this marching up and down and cheering and waving flags is simply sex gone sour. If you're happy inside yourself, why should you get excited about Big Brother and the Three-Year Plans and the Two Minutes Hate and all the rest of their bloody rot?"
     
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    There are no rights outside those you are capable of enforcing through your actions and the actions of the people who have connection with you. Thus only right is might.
     
  7. tkolter

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    It could turn out to be like Earth in the Star Trek Universe or a Brave New World or any number of another constructed world governments it doesn't have to be some kind of horror show.
     
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    Even in Star Trek, the lifestyle and freedoms enjoyed by the federation it could only exist because of the power of the military arm of the Federation called "Starfleet".
     
  9. DZero

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    So, is your point that a one world government would abuse its power and become a totalitarian state? If so, I would agree, people hunger for power, but the UN could organize it into a democracy with universal human rights at least temporarily(until it decides to abuse its limited power).
     
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    Does the above even make sense to you? When you reread it?
     
  11. DZero

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    Rights can only come from a government with laws. They are constructed and protected through force. Rights are not something your born with or have naturally. A right is a legal entitlement.

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    It does in my way of reading it, how are you interpreting it?
     
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    You are contradicting yourself that is all.
     
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    If I am, point out the contradiction.
     
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    First of all, anyone that is in favor of a one World Government, will first favor total Gun Control, Why ? Jack Booted Nazi Thugs feel safer rounding up unarmed defenseless subjects of a Totalitarian Regime.
     

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