UNRWA condemns the usage of Gazan children as human shields by Hamas

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  1. AKRunner88

    AKRunner88 New Member

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    They don't care who they hit as long as they kill Israelis.
     
  2. DrewBedson

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    No, they are not designed to be political but rather military. Stop rockets, arrest or kill Hamas members, not win votes by shaking hands and kissing babies.
     
  3. DrewBedson

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    Not sure, they never mentioned hitting a military target rather only brag about hitting cities.
     
  4. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is why it is so hard to get an honest debate from certain Zionists, you cannot rely on them even when given something as simple as a quote from a Dictionary not to mis-quote it.
    1.
    the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
    2.
    the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
    3.
    a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

    I assumed you understood the difference between the word "especially" and "must". I thought maybe you had not read it, now I realise I am asking you to understand something too difficult for you.
     
  5. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh dear a problem again, you seam to think now that "not win votes by shaking hands and kissing babies" is the only form of political aims. Are you really that naive? Can you not understand that all of Israels aims are political, they wish to drive the Palestinians from their own land so they can annex the land without upsetting the balance of their racist state.
     
  6. DrewBedson

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    And this is why it is so difficult to discuss things with an Islamic jihadi who got his English from a terror manual.


     
  7. MVictorP

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    The IDF's "invasive defense" is as much political as any war ever were: The goal is to eliminate the other side capacity to resist, and to coerce him into surrender (the "terrorism" part) or to revolt against its own government. To these ends, public services such as bridges, water filtration plants and the such are destroyed, as "collective punishment". If you don't see the politics in there...

    The shifting, obscure and arcane differences you see between military collective punishment and terrorist acts are largely subjective, and are created by blind partisanry. But, and this where you utterly fail, even if you were right (which you are not), the fact is that the IDF, at the end of the day, kills a damn lot more civilians/innocents/bystanders than the Palestinians ever dreamed of killing, no matter how you may call these killings.
     
  8. RiaRaeb

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  9. DrewBedson

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    I do understand that military actions lead to political ends as all things lead to political ends however, a terrorist action is attacks on civilians in order to achieve a political end and a military action is an attack on a military target designed to achieve a military goal in order to ultimately achieve a political goal.


    Then why are they targeting Hamas rather than just carrying out high level bombing of Gaza and killing everybody?
     
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    You're welcome.
     
  11. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because if they hi level bomb the Palestinians it will be even clearer that there is no real military aim to the attack on Gaza.
    What is the military aim of the actions at present, surely even you will understand that it will not stop the rockets or the tunnels. It might reduce in the short term, but if Israeli generals believe it will stop it then I suggest they sack those generals. The only way to stop it is to annex Gaza. They cannot annex Gaza because of the racist nature of Zionism. Zionist's believe that the majority of Israeli's must be Jews for now and forever. I think that is a racist idea others do not.

    Either the aim is a political one to coerce the Palestinian people to leave Gaza or stop resisting using terror tactics.
    OR
    It is a completely useless attempt by an incompetent military to stop the rockets and tunnels.

    There are many things that I would accuse the IDF of, but incompetence is not one of them.
     
  12. DrewBedson

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    So it is a non military attack then that is secret and disguised as a military attack? Golly, that's a good one!

    You said it!

    Or reduce the capability of Hamas to wage attacks to such an extent that they cannot mount anything close to being viable.

    So why do they (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) foot around with blasting tunnels, rocket sites and Hamas rather than carpet bomb Gaza so everybody either dies or leaves?


    Once again you hit the nail on the head!
     
  13. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again you seam to think that highlighting a few words in bold will convince people that the rest of the sentence is not important!

    Here I can show you what you do.

    I think that Palestinians should not kill Jews
    Look look everybody he wants to kill Jews, I have won my argument.

    I remember these debating tactics from school, it was pathetic then and its even more pathetic now.
    Is this what your argument is reduced to?

    What is the military objective of the IDF with their present attack?
     
  14. DrewBedson

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    I was going to highlight the last sentence but from your ire of the last post will not so will respond thus;

    You asked;

    "What is the military objective of the IDF with their present attack?"

    You answered it yourself in your last post by saying the it could be to "reduce in the short term" " or stop resisting using terror tactics."
     
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    Aha, so you admit the IDF is using terror tactics to stop the Palestinians resisting!
     
  16. DrewBedson

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    No, the quote was about the Palestinians not IDF.
     
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    It was about Gazan.
     
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    Yes. Palestinians in Gaza using terror as a form of resistance.
     
  19. free man

    free man Well-Known Member

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    They are using terror as a form of terror.
    They have nothing to resist for Israel withdraw from Gaza a decade ago.
    So istead of building Gaza, they build tunnels inside israel to kidnap and murder its citizens,
     
  20. MVictorP

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    Whoops! Sounds like the blockade never did exist, mmmh? You zios always forget about it.

    Of course it exist - you would notice it if you were living in Gaza. That's why there are tunnels. They do not only serve to transport explosives and angelic Israeli hostages, y'know. In fact, the Palestinians of Gaza would be economically and socially strangled (the admitted Israeli goals) without them.

    How could have you committed more than 2000 posts with such faulty logic? There were nobody to debunk you?
     
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    The creator of this threat misquoted the original UNRWA message. In the first post it is quoted: Yesterday, in the course of the regular inspection of its premises, UNRWA discovered approximately 20 rockets hidden in a school in the Gaza Strip. UNRWA strongly condemns the group or groups responsible for placing the weapons in one of its installations.

    The original message is: Yesterday, in the course of the regular inspection of its premises, UNRWA discovered approximately 20 rockets hidden in a vacant school in the Gaza Strip. UNRWA strongly condemns the group or groups responsible for placing the weapons in one of its installations.

    Why was the word "vacant" removed? To make us think school children would have been used as human shields. That is a propaganda lie, at least in this very present case. Does this kind of fooling other people render more creditibility to anyones cause?
    And if those methods have to be used, doesn't that make it look as if not other (better) evidence would be available?

    http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-strongly-condemns-placement-rockets-school
     
  22. DrewBedson

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    A blockade and, this blockade is a legal military action my Jihadi friend.

    And when at war it is the duty of each belligerent to raise the lifestyle of the others population?

    Easy, they all fell just as you will once you understand how out to lunch your idiocy is.
     
  23. DrewBedson

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    Great observation!:thumbsup:
     
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    So Israeli soldiers are so incompetent that they have to shell an apartment building instead of breaching and sweeping it like overweight cops in the US do everyday?
     
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    UNRWA is an agency of the United Nations.
     

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