US Admits American Pilot With Ukraine Pilot When Jet Crashed

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I look at a person's face and especially the eyes. It's usually the best reflection of a person's soul.

    They were all Nato countries.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are quite a few Greeks living in Crimea and Ukraine, and I assumed this is where Greek pro news was getting its information from. It's also when I realized that our media hides almost everything from the American people. What an insult to us.

    Right now the Greek government is completely controlled by Washington, and has banned entrance of Greeks from Crimea. Probably out of fear they might disclose reality to the public.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just to inform everyone -

    The situation in Ukraine is not a joke. Other than a military build up by Nato, and mercenaries and snipers being sent in, there are persecutions going on towards a large segment of the Ukrainian population. Woman from the Donbas area still under Kiev's control are being forcefully drafted to kill their own people, missiles from the Nazi militias are killing civilians in the separated Donbas Republics, and churches are forcefully being taken away from the faithful over a split in the churches instigated by Washington.

    If the situation wasn't serious, Putin would not have warned Poroshenko that he will end up like Sashkavili in Georgia and lose a large segment of his country.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you say Russian's when the Soviet Union consisted of many people not just Russia? The USSR was a liberal international political system devised by certain elements in the West to overtake Imperial Russia. The intent was to use Russia to expand that political system throughout the world.

    The new world order that is being pushed by Soros and others with propaganda, is a repeat of the Bolsheviks taking control of Russia to install their atheist system. The difference is that the USSR was a government tyranny, while our tyranny will be a corporate one.

    Frankly I wouldn't believe much of what is being said in the MSM which are owned by 6 corporations. This is why Russia is fighting us. They suffered it before, and will not suffer it again.
     
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    Oh my this is so filled with inaccuracies it is funny. The USSR was homegrown. I mean the revisionism is right up there with The Southern Apologists.
     
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    Well not everyone should be.
    Just
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    RT = Russian News Network
    You can find them at rt.com
    and sometimes see a story not on
    ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, BBC nor Fox.
    The West lives in censorship by choice of story
    and "our" news :rolleyes: all report the same stories.

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    catalinacat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The democrats have had business with Ukraine for years now. Joe Biden's son works for one of the Ukraine Gas Companies.
    This has been faux outrage manufactured by the left toward Russia, i.e. Victoria Nuland, an aide of Hillary's when she was SOS. Anyone just has to do research and read
     
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    I'm confused what this has anything to do with a post about a pilot dying?
     
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    Jeanette must scour and promote conspiracy on internet forums as directed by home office....this is doing a good job apparently.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not under the Washington payroll, but can you say the same?
     
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    So no credible sources & no identification of the alleged bodies. Gee, sounds just like the alleged 'NATO personnel' for whom we still have no names. In fact, sounds like most of your posts Jeanette - no credible source, no credible information, just a lot of assertion and anti-Western propaganda.
     
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    @tecoyah too

    I receive Social Security.
    Does that count as being on the Washington payroll? :)


    Moi :oldman:
    At 70 they "make you" take it.





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    In which case Putin ought to invade ALL of the Ukraine.
    And take the Baltics, Poland etc as well to save Russian minorities and people
    repressed by NATO, the EU, American imperialism and the like.
    Go for it.
     
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    Oooo, I gotta go back to the churches one. The Ukrainians have been trying to, off and on, become a separate church since the Soviet Union broke up. Hell, they weren't even part of it till like the 1600s and just cause you stole it long time ago, doesn't mean you keep it. And the faithful aren't losing the churches, Moscow is, which is a HUGE difference.
     
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    If it's ethnic cleansing and genocide of course Putin should invade.. It's not occurring in the EU though, only in the Ukraine which is under Washington's control.

    But that's okay they're only Russians, and as was shown us in WWII by Adolph Hitler, they're expendable. I guess fascists are the same everywhere, whether their nationalists like in Ukraine, or liberals like in the US.

    Talking about our liberal fascism, when Vladimir Putin brought the following up at the Valdai meeting, the response from our State Dept. was that they didn't know about it. Yeah right! No doubt the prisoners are probably Christians or Shia and having ISIS kill them off is no problem for Washington.


    After several days of sandstorms hindered U.S. air support, ISIS counterattacked on October 11 against the U.S. led SDF. Suicide bombers blew up SDF checkpoints as ISIS broke through the lines. It retook several villages and on October 12 raided a refugee camp for local civilians that the U.S. coalition had set up near Al Bahrah. Some 130 refugee families with about 700 persons were taken prisoners and brought to Hajin, a small city at the northern end of the ISIS held area.

    Through local tribal elders ISIS requested to negotiate with the U.S. coalition about an exchange of prisoners. It also demanded medical and food supplies in exchange for 90 captured women it had isolated from their families. The request was rejected. ISIS now threatens to kill ten of the abductees per day unless its demands are fulfilled.


    https://www.moonofalabama.org/

    At last report, they started killing them.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're right! I forgot I am on their payroll - but at least not the propaganda one.
     
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    I want you to learn this one thing about the typical American. FEW watch the news. Even less understand the news. And a lot of those are Democrats. They hate Trump. For what he has done?

    No. For his being a member of the republican party. That is the sum total of the Trump hatred.

    So when we are fed BS by our own media, this leads to the decline of the public knowing what is truth or fiction.

    We are supposed to hate Russians. Who tells us this? The Democrats tell us this. They beat the public to death with their hate of Putin. But then put into the light, and asking no Russians, they jump to the conclusion you all know what the man is up to. I do not see Putin as good for America. Maybe he is great for Russia, but he is not supposed to be great for America. I wish he was great for America. But that is not his duty.
     
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    I want you to learn this one thing about the typical American. FEW watch the news. Even less understand the news. And a lot of those are Democrats. They hate Trump. For what he has done?

    No. For his being a member of the republican party. That is the sum total of the Trump hatred.

    So when we are fed BS by our own media, this leads to the decline of the public knowing what is truth or fiction.

    We are supposed to hate Russians. Who tells us this? The Democrats tell us this. They beat the public to death with their hate of Putin. But then put into the light, and asking no Russians, they jump to the conclusion you all know what the man is up to. I do not see Putin as good for America. Maybe he is great for Russia, but he is not supposed to be great for America. I wish he was great for America. But that is not his duty.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you want RT google it and you get the site.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nationalism is a sin in Christianity, and if the Patriarch of Constantinople is accepting a national church in Ukraine and taking it away from Moscow, something he doesn't have the authority to do, then he's under some pressure to do so by those who support him financially. Let's just say Patriarch Bartolomew is not exactly known for his integrity.

    Were the people in Ukraine who attend the churches asked if they want to be under the schismatic Fileret? I don't think so, or the Nazis wouldn't be using violence to kick them out.

    Ukraine is going to dissolve because of this.
     
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    This is the problem. The "ethnic cleansing" and "genocide" are debatable.
    The Russian invasion is not.
     
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    no, it was an international project.
     
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    Reporting from the Garden of Eden:

    "Wagner seems to exist to push the envelope of what Moscow can achieve in new environments. The central African adventure epitomizes this strategy. It allows Russia to enter a foreign, largely hostile environment with minimal risk, and to exploit both political and economic opportunities there. Wagner appears to have tapped this possibility at the highest level, reportedly serving as CAR President Faustin-Archange Touadera’s personal security detail. The withdrawal of hundreds of U.S. soldiers from Africa and widespread antipathy throughout the CAR toward the French, the traditional power brokers in their former colony, have left the CAR as what one United Nations official calls a “free country for the taking.” Russia has spent much of the past decade looking to reassert itself globally; following largely successful forays into the Middle East, Africa marks a natural next step for the Kremlin’s foreign policy. Add in the promise of lucrative gold and diamond resources and it’s easy to see why the country would be an attractive target for Moscow (and a profitable one for Wagner).

    Despite these hiccups, the past year has been an eminently successful one for Wagner. One Wagner-focused discussion group on a Russian social-media site has seen a spike of activity the past six months. Many users have expressed their interest in joining, while some heated discussions have emerged. (One commentator, looking to join, was told, “This isn’t a ****ing game like you think, to which he responded, “I know what war is, I served in Chechnya.”)

    There are also indications that the Wagner model is being replicated. In July, a little-known company called Patriot, reportedly well connected to defense-ministry officials and offering better pay than Wagner, surfaced. Its contractors can reportedly earn up to 1 million rubles a month, an unthinkable sum for anyone living outside Moscow’s Garden Ring. It remains to be seen exactly what role Patriot, Wagner, or any other imitators will play in Africa, Syria, and elsewhere going forward, but it appears as though the private military company as an instrument of Russian foreign and domestic policy is here to stay."

    Source: Global Botanists.
     
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    Wow, Alex Jones much?

    I am not sure where you are getting your information, but it is far from accurate. To start, how about a reference about the war (which started in 2014) started when a transport plane was shot down.

    As for LtCol Nehring, he died less than 2 weeks ago when an Su-27 he was flying with a Ukrainian pilot crashed. The exercise he was participating in is called Clear Sky, which allows pilots from many NATO countries to go to the Ukraine and take familiarization flights in Soviet-Russian aircraft.

    How about giving facts, instead of just vomiting out nonsense and hoping the uninformed and ignorant will run with it?
     

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