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I wonder if he even knows what an apostate is? A Christian or Jew is not an apostate. Nor are they infidels under Islam.

And ironically, the major justification for and crimes during the Spanish Inquisition was remarkably close to apostasy. Although in reality it is really cases of "false conversion".

 

I wonder if you know what you are talking about, just kidding, I know you don't.
Christians and Jews are not apostates, they are non-believers, kaffir.
To be an apostate you need a different form of Islam than your rulers, or you need to leave the faith.
Of just do something anti-Islamic, a girl can refuse to wear a hijab, and her father kills her,
Ironically they use apostate to justify killing muslims, they are "Bad Muslims"
Infidel is a Christian term, Kaffir is the Muslim term.

 

An argument for the above post, I expect is someone to pull a sura from the Meccan Qur'an and say, see, Muhammed loved Christians and Jews. So did Allah, or should I say ArRamon.

This gets into Islam 102, and nobody here is ready for it, including the Muslims.

But I will answer it when it comes up.

 

Nope, yasureoktoo, you are not an expert on Islam.

We showed that a couple of days ago.

 

Christians and Jews are not Kafir. All three are Abrahamic Faiths, and are all three ahl al-kitab, or People of the Book.

Although a great many do consider them all to be infidels, that is incorrect.

 

LOLOL

I just seem like it to you because you are an I----.
I believe I said many times I am not an Islamic scholar.

Is there a point to your jibberish.
Do you have questions
Do you answer questions.

 

Christians and Jews are Kaffir.
I told you this would come up, and I don't have time for it now.
As I said this is Islam 102.
So I would like you to take the time to validate what I say.
I will point you in the direction.
Instead of just rejecting it.



Sura 2:65 “And you had already known about those who transgressed among you concerning the sabbath, and We said to them, ‘Be apes, despised.’”
Sura 7:166 “So when they were insolent about that which they had been forbidden, We said to them, ‘Be apes, despised.’"
Sura 5:60 “Say, ‘Shall I inform you of [what is] worse than that as penalty from Allah? [It is that of] those (i.e., the Jews) whom Allah has cursed and with whom He became angry and made of them apes and pigs and slaves of Taghut. Those are worse in position and further astray from the sound way.’"
(All Quran quotes from Sahih International translation)


You can see what number these sura's are so they are later in the book.

 

He should get the death penalty for putting American lives at risk.

 

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That's not correct.
People of the book were Jews, Christians, and sometimes Zoroastrianism and another.

But not Muslims.

The Muslims never had a book until hundreds of years later.

 

Yes, the Jews and Christians are People of the Book.

yasureoktoo is dead wrong on this, too.

 

You haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about.

Dude you are making a fool of yourself...AGAIN...
You can't argue about Islam with out knowing at least the basics.

Who are the people of the book in Islam?
People of the Book/Scripture (Arabic: أهل الكتاب‎ ′Ahl al-Kitāb) is an Islamic term referring to Jews, Christians, and Sabians and sometimes applied to members of other religions such as Zoroastrians. It is also used in Judaism to refer to the Jewish people and by members of some Christian denominations to refer to themselves.


Wake up

Muslims didn't even have a book.

 

You are so wrong, yasureoktoo. You know as much as anybody of us that is what Mohammed meant.

 

Dude, your arguments are too dumb for me to continue, and you don't even understand it.

I read the friggin books, you did not.

The Muslims had no book.

Just type in the question, and you will get lots of sources telling you what I said.

 

The Muslims did have a book, as you well know. And the Jews and Christians were referred to in it as Children of the Book.

You need to read, study, and give up your hard headeness.

 

What book did the muslims have.

And there is nowhere in all of Islamic text where children of the book is used.
Show me where, book and verse.

You just make this sh-t up.

 

Concept of People of the Book in Islam | About Islam http://aboutislam.net/shariah/contemporary-issues/concept-of-people-of-the-book-in-islam/

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Concept of People of the Book in Islam We sometimes tend to use expressions at a general level without paying attention to their religious, or social boundaries. As generality generates ambiguity, this article will explore the meaning of the term ‘People of the Book’, highlighting its origins in the Qur'an and discussing, in brief, the usage and themes associated with it in the Islamic literature.

Also read https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/people-of-the-book/ for a continuing of the theme into the middle ages.

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yasureoktoo is giving an infidel's intepretation of what the term means.

 

LOLOL

A kaffir'

Infidel is a Christian term.

I don't interpret Islam.

and People of the book did not originate in the Qur'an.
The Qur'an is hundreds of years later.

 

Look what happened at Ft. Hood.

 

85% of Egyptian Muslims think 'apostates' should be killed.

 

They save them in prison to do spy exchanges in the future..

 

AFTER he ceases to be useful.

 

Do Egyptian Muslims live here?

 

Shocking. Huma Abadeen didn't even get indicted....

 

An apostate is somebody who converts from Islam to another religion.

It is not somebody of another religion.

 

an apostate is someone who leaves Islam, or violates some of the rules.

ie, a father kills his daughter in an honor killing because she refuses to wear a hijab.
She is un-Islamic, and a apostate.