US budget deficit rises to $209 billion in November

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  1. Socratica

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    Well, it's like wasting a buck or two in todays Washington. And I don't remember you bitching about Mr. Obatard and his family pissing away money hand over foot.. And Trump takes no wage whereas the last asshat did.. So deduct that and you might be able to live with it ;)
     
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    It is pointless to try and have a discussion with you as you will merely claim you have already refuted anything posted and refuse to answer direct questions to you as in directly asking you to prove Bush could have vetoed the Democrats 2009 budget which ended in a $1,400B defict. Your history of obfuscation well documented.
    And of course your claims of white flags, no white flag offered.
     
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    Florida is awash with golf courses. He could stay at any of those.

    Of course he could golf locally. Or better yet he could make good on his promise to work, not golf.
     
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    Trump plays golf at his own courses quite often. I expect that the green fees are free. Most of the costs for American Presidents' leisure time has more to do with costs to operate Air Force One, pay all the Secret Service security people, and other routine, but expensive, costs.

    Trump can spend "one palette" of money (depicted below). The budget is almost FIVE of the multiple rows and rows and columns and columns of double-stacked palettes shown in the bottom drawing.


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    Did he send them money from his charity? Oh. Wait.
    It does allow tax avoidance by the way.
     
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    Wasting a buck or 2? Trump needs to work a couple of 100 years as president in order to pay back what he wastes on vacations. Who cares that he is returning 4 years of salary back. That doesn't put a dent into what he wastes. And Obama didn't wast that much. You're just deflecting.
     
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    You can make plenty of estimates but that doesn't prove that your assertions are close or accurate. I suppose this is why you are having trouble proving your, "Trump is wasting around 30 million on taxes more to spend on vacations in 3 years in what Obama needed in 8," claim.

    Are you ready to walk some of that back, revise your initial claim or start by stating, "this is only my estimates."
     
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    Like I said before. It's the lies that are priceless.
     
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    white flag noted, and accepted.
     
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    So you don't buy the GAO numbers, but have no others?
     
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    His tariff plan in bringing in $156 Billion this year in revenue which Clinton, had she been elected, would have continued to let China keep with unfair trading practices. Trump is earning revenue, without it coming from citizen tax payers. I think that's great!
     
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    So your one of those Trumpers that think you are not paying for the tariffs?
    Where did you get 156 billion in tariff revenue?
     
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    you understand that the tariffs are paid by americans right? tariffs are a tax.
     
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    Revenue?
    Donald is making a record deficit of the US with absolutely no clue how to repay it.
    On top of that, he is wasting +100 million of taxes so he can go on vacation.
     
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    Politicians take advantage of voter amnesia and pile on the promises.
    Dems promise that raising your taxes will create a better society. As long as people forget the results high taxes create, they will vote dem.
    Reps promise fiscal responsibility. As long as people forget the results we are discussing in this thread, they will vote rep.
    Its like that South Park episode where people have to vote for a giant doosh or a turd sandwich.
     
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    Why when his own better, it's hisbown home and the Secret Service is already prepared to provide security.
     
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    As I said It is pointless to try and have a discussion with you as you will merely claim you have already refuted anything posted and refuse to answer direct questions to you as above as in directly asking you to prove Bush could have vetoed the Democrats 2009 budget which ended in a $1,400B defict. Your history of obfuscation well documented.
    And of course your claims of white flags, no white flag offered.
     
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    Obama and the Democrats still own the biggest deficit. Want to get it down then elect more fiscal conservatives. Which current Democrats are running on a platform of cutting spending and fiscal restraint?
     
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    second white flag noted and accepted
     
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    republicans controlled both houses of congress and the presidency for 2 straight year and exploded the deficit, in good economic times.
     
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    Yeah... you go deflect away from my argument that
    1) Trump is wasting +100 million of vacations, making him working for free totally irrelevant
    2) That Trump is going to hit a trillion in deficit with absolutely no clue how to repay it.

    Something like 15% of the taxes that people pay goes to paying the interest of that deficit. lol
     
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    About as likely as Trump fulfilling his promise of a balanced budget or tax cuts that would pay for themselves.

    Republicans are only concerned about the debt when we have a Democratic President.
     
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    We all remember when Obama’s golf was a major a Trump taking point. And now we have a President who when he isn’t playing golf is having executive time watching TV. Of course it could be worse. He could actually be working!
     
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