US Capitol attack Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes found guilty of seditious conspiracy

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  1. Arkanis

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    Stewart Rhodes, the founder of the rightwing Oath Keepers militia, has been found guilty of seditious conspiracy, a charge arising from the attack on the US Capitol by supporters of Donald Trump.

    Rhodes and co-defendant Kelly Meggs are the first people in nearly three decades to be found guilty of the rarely used civil war-era charge at trial. The trial was the biggest test yet for the US justice department in its efforts to hold accountable those responsible for the attack that shook the foundations of US democracy.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...a-founder-stewart-rhodes-seditious-conspiracy

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    How will MAGA explain this?

    They minimized the 1/6 riot because there was never any intention to overthrow the government.

    You were wrong again.

    Two MAGAs who will languish in prison for many years because they followed Donald Trump's directives.

    And he will follow them soon enough.
     
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    Rhodes and the other oath keepers will be looking forward to a lot of jail time ahead of them.
     
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    I certainly more prison time for those insurrectionists.
     
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    Seditious conspiracy could be a lot of things. I paid no attention to this trial as I don't give a **** what some nobody is convicted of so I'm not sure what aspect of 'seditious conspiracy' he is guilty of. Who knows, maybe this guy actually thought he and his buddies could overthrow the gov't. I doubt that was his thinking, but I know it's what you lefties love to fantasize about.

    BUT.....does it really matter if some nobody that's probably mentally challenged or, at minimum, has psychological issues is convicted of seditious conspiracy? Tell me why I or anybody else should care? That's a serious question. I wanna know why this nobody is so important. Can any lefty here connect him to Trump? I have a feeling nobody can. That said.....

    The left told us that it was Trump who was behind it all. The left told us it was Trump who wanted to remain in power through this 'insurrection'. I'm still waiting for that to come out. Show me how this has anything to do with anything other than this 1 person (or some insignificant few people).

    If this is your big win out of 1/6....that you convicted a nobody....congrats....you don't have a ****ing thing.

    This is nothing more than a desperate attempt to keep talking about anything but the current disaster of an administration.

    I know the left wants to stretch this out as far as it will go so I expect to keep hearing about it until at least the 2024 elections.
     
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    Is this the captain crunch guy?
     
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    Moving the goal post....
     
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    Shook the foundations of US Democracy?
    Oh please. Talk about drama queens. lol
     
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    No, the left set those goal posts and threads like this one are moving them.
     
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    It really is the hallmark of absurdity, so let's take one of the key facts from the trial. The stash of weapons in Virginia, purportedly to be transferred over to Washington except the so-called QRF didn't actually manifest in reality(this is because, among other things, anyone would notice if a stash of weapons crossed over from the Virginia borders into Washington.)

    This is where prosecutions usually get defendants, 'conspiracy' doesn't actually have to be a real, tangible conspiracy. Just the "elements" of one will suffice. Indeed, the judge instructed them to rule accordingly(and thus very loosely) and they still only got 2/5 on the charge.

    This is real time political theater, for consumption and long overplayed. But it shows the health of our judiciary and the need for bipartisan reforms to strengthen our judiciary, which is now prone to emotionalism and outbursts.
     
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    That's another insurrection in jail. !!
     
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    Rioter. I don't care what a jury calls it, I don't care what the government calls it and I don't particularly care much for our judicial system since it can be prone to incorrect judgment calls. What happened on 1/6/2020 was a riot, not a conspiracy and certainly no credible attempt was made on the government's power.

    If they wish to believe it so, that's their choice. But I will rest in my grave not giving credence to what I find to be an absurdity of the highest proportions.
     
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    So, all by yourself, you know more than a prosecutor, a defense lawyer, a judge and a jury? Impressive. That kind of egotism is certainly impressive.
     
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    I saw the evidence they saw and came to a different conclusion. That being said, the moral of the story is that this thing called government is nothing to be that passionate about. No politician will ever be worth putting my life in another's hands.
     
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    This thing called government is the boldest experiment in history. We have the first and only government BY THE PEOPLE! OUR Constitution IS "THE GREATEST DOCUMENT EVER WRITTEN BY MEN FOR MANKIND. And YES, I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.

    I'm sure you could find an uninhabited island somewhere where you could be TOTALLY in charge of YOU. But, IF you're going to live in society, any society, your life will ALWAYS depend on others.

    I really don't get your moniker, you don't seem to be a Nationalist ... at all.
     
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    The fact you find judges, lawyers, and juries above reproach is quite..leftist of you.
     
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    That you so easily, jumped to that conclusion is quite … rightist of you.
     
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    I suppose I could say that I am in love with what could be, what arguably should be rather than what is. And increasingly, the dream of the US being a united country that echos its words with its deeds, is a figment of my imagination. It's no different than how the left felt after 2016, but on a much deeper level. I realize that no matter how much effort is put into it, the government will remain fractured and those in power will make their decisions not based on logic, but based on what they deem important.

    Basically, it's all futile. "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence,—it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant, and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.”
     
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    Just following the evidence of your post.
     
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    The focus of Jan 6th ought to be on individuals like this, who were both the main organizers, and the main culprits of the assault on the US capitol. They are the ones that should get the harsher penalties, while the individuals who simply entered a restricted area without assaulting anyone should be given some leniency.
     
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    Yeah I know you are giving aid and comfort insurrectionists. I also remember you complaining that no one was charged with insurrection.

    Now it happened, and I am here to remind you. :)
    Keep playing naive.
     
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    The prosecution and judge prevented any of them from even invoking Trump as an attempt he made me do it defense.
     
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    Who was charged let alone convicted on insurrection?
     
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    Nothing I said indicates I believe our legal system is above reproach, that’s your conjecture.
     
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    I find it irreconcilable that the right professes to love and support OUR Constitution and yet constantly criticizes everything it stands for AND find fault with everything OUR Government does in spite of all OUR Nation has accomplished, and continues to.
     
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    Your argument isn't logical.

    Just because we have a constitution doesn't mean we should automatically be happy with anything gov't does. That makes no sense.

    Our constitution was largely written in a way that limits the scope and power of gov't so when you see those of us on the right criticize the expansion of gov't, the increase in power of the gov't, etc....it is because we believe in the constitution and are in favor of it, not that we're against it.

    And no, we don't find fault with everything our gov't does. That's simply not a true statement.
     
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