US completes withdrawal from Afghanistan Resources for military

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  1. MJ Davies

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    The US withdrawal from Afghanistan is taking a toll on vets who fought there. Here are some ways to help.

    For immediate assistance:

    Veterans Crisis Line has people ready to listen and help. Call them at 1-800-273-8255, then select 1. You can click here to access a counselor through text or chat.

    More Resources: https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/17/us/i...-by-afghanistans-fall-can-get-help/index.html

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    Friendly reminder that our military need our support and encouragement.
     
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    It isn't so much leaving Afghanistan. It's how we left. Be sure that the Democrat media will now try to spin this topic to how Biden successfully got us out of Afghanistan when no other President could. They will praise Biden for ending the war. What can never be forgotten is not so much ending the war, but how Biden screwed up the final chapter of the war. He ended up with people stranded and refused to stay until every America was out. And, this idea that there are Americans that want to stay is stupid. Had Talibiden kept thousands of troops in Afghanistan and all the bases open until all Americans and friendly Afghans were out of the country, removed all of our weapons, there would have been no other deaths. Then, the troops could all get out. That's what his military leaders wanted done. But, Talibiden Joe got it in his sick mind to just get out by the most inept method and on time that even when things were going bad, he didn't stop and re-start the correct way.
     
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    Here are the names of the soldiers that were killed in the recent ISIS suicide bombing.

    The Department of Defense released names and details Saturday of the service members killed:

    • Marine Corps Lance Cpl. David L. Espinoza, 20, of Rio Bravo, Texas
    • Marine Corps Sgt. Nicole L. Gee, 23, of Sacramento, California
    • Marine Corps Staff Sgt. Darin T. Hoover, 31, of Salt Lake City
    • U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Ryan C. Knauss, 23, of Corryton, Tennessee
    • Marine Corps Cpl. Hunter Lopez, 22, of Indio, California
    • Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Rylee J. McCollum, 20, Jackson, Wyoming
    • Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Dylan R. Merola, 20, of Rancho Cucamonga, California
    • Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Kareem M. Nikoui, 20, of Norco, California
    • Marine Corps Cpl. Daegan W. Page, 23, of Omaha, Nebraska
    • Marine Corps Sgt. Johanny Rosariopichardo, 25, of Lawrence, Massachusetts
    • Marine Corps Cpl. Humberto A. Sanchez, 22, of Logansport, Indiana
    • Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Jared M. Schmitz, 20, of St. Charles, Missouri
    • Navy hospital corpsman Maxton W. Soviak, 22, of Berlin Heights, Ohio
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...vice-members-killed-kabul-bombing/5641896001/
     
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    Yeah yeah......but was it not Humpty who imposed an exit day in May? Yes he did. Biden reneged and the Taliban got schitty. There is no 'decent' way to make an exit from a War zone......the loser does not get to make all the decisions....except when the Aussies did it at Gallipoli.

    :)
     
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    You can count on Trumpists to twist reality, but history won't remember that.

    More than 120,000 people were evacuated in two weeks without a single shot being fired between the US military and the Taliban.

    Biden has just completed the largest air evacuation in the history of any country.

    The withdrawal was generally orderly, without panic, and the army made the necessary adjustments at the appropriate time.

    The August 31 deadline was met.

    There was the ISIS attack, which was terrible, but it is another proof that Afghanistan isn't manageable in the short term.
     
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    Once again, you miss quote the actual order. There were contingency demands by Trump to the Taliban including threatening to send them to their 72 virgins if Trump's demands weren't met. Talibiden stole the election and was then the sole person in charge of Afghanistan, not Trump. Talibiden had 100% authority to change anything Trump had established with the Taliban, Biden's people. Talibiden wasn't forced to follow Trump's timelines or agenda with Afghanistan. So, that's just a red herring you and the left are throwing out. Heck, Talibiden has pretty much destroyed all of Trump's executive orders. Why would you or anyone else in love with Talibiden now use Trump's executive orders with Afghanistan to justify such a pitiful exit of Afghanistan? Talk about major hypocrisy. In fact, did Talibiden evacuate in May? No! So, there you go. Another executive order Talibiden ignored and changed 180 degrees. Talibiden had 7 months to get Americans and Afghanistans out of Afghanistan before reducing the military and giving up 6 bases including the devistating loss in Bagram with all the weapons now in the hands of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda an ISIS. It would have been very simple to have done this properly. And, when Talibiden realized that the Taliban were winning against the Afghan military, he told the Afghan President to lie to his military about this. All caught on tape. Talibiden then removed all the ground support for the Afghan Air Force so that they could not fly their jets for air support for their armies. The Taliban then quickly overran the entire country catching Talibiden and his inept generals off guard and the country fell. We ended up trapped at the airport. Oh, and Talibiden refused to allow our troops to defend and control the airport. That's also now on record. This made the Taliban the ones in control of who goes into the airport which lead to the suicide ISIS bomber killing 13 of our military and wounding 22 others and killing many Afghan civilians. Pathetic impeachable leadership.
     
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    You have got to be kidding! Not even CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times or Washington Post agrees with any of this. Orderly??? The Taliban were in charge! We have left hundreds of American's behind. We hadn't lost a single soldier in a year and a half and we lost 13 with 22 injured because of Talibiden's blundering. A USA Today poll said 84% of Americans disapproved of Talibiden's handling of the extraction of people from Afghanistan. You obviously didn't see the people panicking because you watch the Taliban News organizations of America. Talibiden Joe panicked when he learned that the Taliban were winning the war because Talibiden ordered all military personnel who worked on the jets the Afghan Air Force to leave Bagram making it impossible for their fighters to give air cover to the Afghan troops on the ground. Then, he called the President of Afghanistan to tell his troops that they are winning the war! He tried to force him to lie to his people. That phone call is all over the internet and Fox News. That's what caused the Afghans to quit fighting. Had we continued to assist as we were doing for the past year and a half, we could have removed all Americans and the Afghans who helped us for 20 years from Afghanistan before the Taliban could take over. Instead, we had chaos at the airport. Now Talibiden wants to give money to the Taliban and have normal diplomatic relations with them. He's delusional to think 7th century thinking people want to have normal relations with the rest of the world. Meanwhile, there are several reports that ISIS and Al-Qaeda are setting up bases inside Afghanistan, again! And, Talibiden Joe gave specific personal information about Americans and Affghans who fought against the Taliban to the Taliban. The Taliban are going around hunting out these people and killing them as we are here writing about this. Unforgivable to give up names and information to the enemy. That's treason and he should be court marshalled and hanged!!!
     
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    I stopped reading there.
     
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    You didn't but you have to say that to save face. No, all of it is true. But, be as the blind mice, see no evil, speak no evil and hear no evil when it comes to any Democrat.
     
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    Speaking of blind mice, make up evil, speak evil, listen to evil....tell us exactly how Biden 'stole' the election, and provide cogent evidence.
     
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    Ahhh...Talibiden deflection technique. We will see this happen in California with the way the voting is set up ripe for voter fraud galore. We know now hundreds of thousands and maybe millions of fraudulent ballots were counted for and behalf of Talibiden.
     
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    "We know........." Is that your cogent evidence?
     
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    You're treading on thin ice. After the wall of text comes the bible verses. Just sayin'.
     
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    Orderly? Without panic?

    I guess the Afghans falling from the sky from airplanes does not count. And the ground crew having to scrape those that crawled into the wheel wells then were crushed when the landing gear retracted.

    https://people.com/politics/remains-found-in-air-force-plane-wheel-well-after-afghanistan/

    And that was over 2 weeks before the deadline. Things only got worse after that. With most of the flights dangerously overweight and way over capacity.

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    Orderly and without panic indeed.
     

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