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  1. Mircea

    Mircea Well-Known Member

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    It's backed by the goods and services you produce.

    There was no Republican recession.
     
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    All of this has been repeatedly refuted
     
  3. rahl

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    The republican recession of 2008, which was the worst in record in 80 years.
     
  4. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    We got it you can't debate the issue nor answer questions about your own position.

    So explain how he could have vetoed the 2009 budget which was not passed until he was out of office. The budget which Obama added in his $800B stimulus along with the other spending increases the Democrats added in as I PROVED and you have yet to rebut.
     
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  5. TheAngryLiberal

    TheAngryLiberal Banned

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    your argument was refuted the first time you made it, going back several years, and you know that.
     
  7. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Maybe this helps
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Appropriations_Act,_2009

    Maybe this helps

    "In FY2009, Congress did not complete work by September 30, 2008. President Bush did sign some appropriations bills and a continuing resolution to keep the government running into President Obama’s first term, yet a Democrat controlled Congress purposely held off on the big spending portions of the appropriations bills until Obama took office. They did so for the purposes of jacking up spending. President Obama signed the final FY2009 spending bills on March 11, 2009.

    The Democrats purposely held off on the appropriations process because they hoped they could come into 2009 with a new Democrat-friendly Congress and a President who would sign bloated spending bills. Remember, President Obama was in the Senate when these bills were crafted and he was part of this process to craft bloated spending bills. CQ reported that “in delaying the nine remaining bills until 2009, Democrats gambled that they would come out of the November 2008 elections with bigger majorities in both chambers and a Democrat in the White House who would support more funding for domestic programs.” And they did.
    The Truth about President Obama's Skyrocketing Spending


    "Unlike last year, when Bush forced Democrats to accept lower spending figures, this year could prove more difficult for the president. The fiscal year begins Oct. 1, less than four months before he leaves office.

    "He doesn't have us over a barrel this year, because either a President Clinton or a President Obama will have to deal with us next year," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. "We are not going to be held hostage to the unreasonableness of this president."

    Much of the president's plan has little chance of passage, lawmakers and budget experts say. Nearly $200 billion in Medicare and Medicaid savings need congressional approval, which Democrats are unlikely to provide. "Dead on arrival," vowed Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.
    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-02-03-bush-budget_N.htm
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    We can't have a debate here if you are just going to dodge and weave with your phony declarations.

    So explain how he could have vetoed the 2009 budget which was not passed until he was out of office. The budget which Obama added in his $800B stimulus along with the other spending increases the Democrats added in as I PROVED and you have yet to rebut.
     
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    there is no debate. your argument was refuted. I, nor anyone else has any obligation to keep refuting it. A simple reminder is all that is needed.
     
  10. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah blah blah blah when you can offer a rebuttal just troll

    So explain how he could have vetoed the 2009 budget which was not passed until he was out of office. The budget which Obama added in his $800B stimulus along with the other spending increases the Democrats added in as I PROVED and you have yet to rebut.
     
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    pointing out your argument has been repeatedly refuted isn't trolling.
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    If you are not going to respond to my question and instead dodge with your phony declarations and trolling there can be no discussion of the topic.

    White flag noted :truce:
     
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    your argument was refuted the first time you made it. And you know that.
     
  14. Bluesguy

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    As I said

    White flag noted :truce:
     
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    your argument was refuted the first time you made it. And you know that.
     
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    FFS. Please read up on supplemental spending. Until then...have a nice day
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The war was over in 2007 ?
    Oh...OK... :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    Yea and Obama pulled out the troops. That spending went way down. Of course his retreat allow ISIS to build back up and he had to go back in...............

    Again the special appropriate for the wars was $88B of the $161B deficit. Two years later the Democrats had a $1,400B deficit and kept it over $1,000B for the next four years. You're really trying to blame that on the wars?
     
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    Thank you for confirming you do not like the truth.
     
  20. Mircea

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    Recessions are neither Republican nor Democrat. They're simply part of the economic cycle, but may be triggered by structural unemployment, Capital reallocation or liquidity issues.
     
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    What a load of crap.

    Obama left office on 1/19/2017 and the Federal Debt was 19,944,429,217,106.77
    One year prior, on 1/19/2016, the Federal debt was 18,940,640,177,236.59

    He ran up over a $Trillion dollars in his final year in office.

    https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/d...tYear=2016&endMonth=01&endDay=19&endYear=2017
     
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    There are no GOP deficit hawks. There is the Tea Party Organization who helped elect deficit hawks but were labeled racist by Democrats and the liberal MSM and suppressed by the GOP.
     
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    What the hell happened to `I alone can fix this`..

    seems pretty f`d up to me.. volatility is going through the roof.. more losers
     
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    republican caused recession
     
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