US designates Iran’s Revolutionary Guards as terrorist organization – Trump

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  1. Mandelus

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    Source: https://www.rt.com/news/455885-us-d...notifications&utm_campaign=push_notifications

    US President Donald Trump has designated Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a “terrorist organization,” accusing the elite force of financing and promoting terrorism in the region.
    “This unprecedented step, led by the Department of State, recognizes the reality that Iran is not only a State Sponsor of Terrorism, but that the IRGC actively participates in, finances, and promotes terrorism as a tool of statecraft,” the statement released on Monday said.


    My remark ...
    Very interesting step and reasoning, because a big part of hypocrisy inside.

    Of course, it is about the support for the Lebanese Hezbollah, which is active in Lebanon and Syria, has been supported by Iran for 40 years ... but by no means everyone in the world is called a terrorist.
    Only ... who sits on the subject of terrorism and support in the Glaushaus like the US, should be careful to throw stones at other outside of the glass house!

    The term terrorist has meanwhile been too much used to discredit an adversary as something of any importance. Example?
    The US supports YPG Kurdish militias in northern Syria and northern Iraq, calling them friends and allies. Not that I see it differently than the US ... on the contrary, I also see them as honorable fighters ... but ask me in Ankara in Turkey, as what the YPG is called there ;-)

    Who is right ... at YPG or Hezbollah and now the revolutionary Guards?
     
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    It seems Iran is seeking to become the ruling Empire of the Middle East, and supports various terrorist groups who can help them achieve that goal.

    The IRG has been, and will likely always be a terrorist organization that attempts to carry out the objectives of the Iranian Regime.
     
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    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Yep ... it looks like this ... but tell me: Where's the difference to Saudi Arabia having the same goal?
    And wher eis the difference to Turkey who dream of a "rise of the Ottoman Empire" in the region?
    And where is the difference to the US who want to have the strategic control in the region?

    Where is the difference between an evil Iran using the disgusting Sharia and ots punishments as law to a Saudi Arabia using the same disgusting Sharia with same punishments as law ... that the US is only accusing and shouting on Iran for it but ignores the case of Saudi Arabia totally and makes big business with them?
     
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    Seems to me, Saudi Arabia is attempting to keep Iran from achieving their objective. Given Iran's objectives, that doesn't seem to be an unreasonable response.

    In the grand Global Picture, Saudi's oil is much more important, and justifies action to thwart Iran's attempt to take control of the Middle East.
     
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    More proof that US Mid East Policy making is done by Israel's pro war, right wing government and its parasitic lobbies that infest the US Government.
     
  6. Mandelus

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    I have another guess ... too:
    After your congress decided to stop supporting Saudi Arabia in Yemen completely ... and Trump must abide by US law ... this detour is trying to make the Saudis and their many billions of deals not too much to anger!
     
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    Darn right, the IRG are terrorist sponsors throughout the Middle East and Trump is 100% right to sponsor the Saudis and YPG against their allies and surrogates,
     
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    Quite the reverse.
     
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    Congress passed the bill but not by veto proof margins and Trump hasn't signed it into law.
    https://freebeacon.com/national-sec...-on-murdering-scores-with-landmines-in-yemen/

    Trump is right to designate the IRG as terrorists, this is way long overdue.
     
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    Seems to me - you have been gulping down way to much State Propaganda koolaid. This whole narrative about Iran trying to take control of the entire ME is abject nonsense on steroids.

    The biggest lie being touted is that Iran is the #1 State sponsor of Terror. While Iran is no angel - Saudi Arabia and the US are far ahead of Iran with respect to arming and supporting terrorist ... and trying to take control of the ME.
     
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    "It seems Iran is seeking to become the ruling Empire of the Middle East, and supports various terrorist groups who can help them achieve that goal."

    So are Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
     
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    Pot calling kettle black ... and general lack of understanding of the issue.

    It wasn't Iran that armed Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria - that would be the USA - El Saud and others.
    It wasn't Iran that attacked Iraq back in the 1980's - that would be Saddam aided by the USA - including the US of chemical weapons.
    It wasn't Iran that attacked Libya - turning that nation into a Jihadist wonderland .. that would be USA.
    It isn't Iran that is on the side of Al Qaeda in Yemen... that would be El Saud - USA.
    It wasn't Iran that attacked Iraq - turning that nation into a Jihadist wonderland - that would be the USA
    It wasn't Iran that turned Afghanistan into a Jihadist wonderland - USA and our beloved partner - El Saud.

    Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Islamic Front, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Shabaab, Boko Haram and numerous other Sunni Salafi extremists groups around the world "ALL" follow the same Saudi inspired Salafist extremist ideology ... not the "Iranian" ideology.

    Saudi Arabia has been exporting this poison all over the world for decades - arming and supporting many of these groups.

    Last - It wasn't Iran that was supporting Al Qaeda (911 terrorists) - that would be Saudi Arabia.

    You must love Al Qaeda and other fanatics extremist groups mentioned if you think Trump is 100% right.
     
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    Yet Iran is also a terrorist regime like Saudi Arabia.
     
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    I know ...
    Moralism and standing for American values in the world stops when the US dollar plays a role.
    No ... I do not live in perfect dream worlds, but if Saudi Arabia is proven to do evil things in Yemen and the US looks the other way ... or Trump will ignore it and probably veto it ... and the US will do the same To condemn bad deeds from others in other places and to take heavy dribbling and action, then the US has completely lost any credibility for democracy and the rule of law!

    Correct!
     
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    If it were the reverse, $ Trillions would be flowing from Israel to the US.

    - “The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel, $3Trillion”
    https://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/the-real-cost-of-us-support-for-israel-3-trillion/

    EXCERPT” While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3 billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government, this figure is just the tip of the iceberg.”CONTINUED


    Meanwhile, Trump already admitted that US Troops are in the Mid East "...for Israel". If it were the reverse, US Troops wouldn't be sacrificing their lives fighting Israel's wars(1)

    - "TRUMP: U.S. TROOPS WILL REMAIN IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR ISRAEL"
    https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Trump-US-troops-will-remain-in-the-Middle-East-for-Israel-572997


    (1) "Quietly lobbying Congress to approve the use of force in Iraq was one of AIPAC's successes over the past year."

    AIPAC executive director Howard Kohr

    New York Sun in January 2003
     
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    Seems to me, the IRG has been feeding you a steady diet of BS.

    Never trust them, or their country.
     
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    Sure ... except that you supported the bastard of Shah who oppressed his people and helped him with the oppression.
    When Khomenei was overthrown, your CIA had nothing better to do than illegally use the US Embassy as the operations center for co-ordinating a counter-coup ... then it flew open and then the US Embassy was also illegally occupied with the hostage-taking.

    It happened in 1979 ... 40 years ago ... and Iran still exists.
    Oh ... and this so threatened little Israel ... you know that they are nuclear armed and even have submarines in position to make Iran "Ground Zero" in a proper attack?
    Sorry ... do you seriously believe that Iran does not know this and longs for paradise to be destroyed by nuclear if they really attack Israe?
     
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    And Iran remains the center of Terrorist funding and projection, as it works to take control of the Middle East.

    Never trust the Iranian Government and the people who populate it's highest levels.
     
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    Never trust Turkey, Iran, or Saudi Arabia.
     
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    Sure .... and what about the others ... I mean those which are declared friend of the US and doing not otherwise as Iran?
     
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    You are right that the term "terrorist" is very much abused. So abused that it has lost all meaning today. In fact, what the US government does all around the globe is terrorism. The US and NATO have delivered terror to the Mideast and elsewhere.

    The Global War On Terror is more accurately described as The Global War OF Terror, waged by NATO and the US. In Libya, Syria, Afghanistan and so many other places, the War Of Terror has destroyed countries, killed people, and generated vast numbers of refugees who have flooded Europe.
     
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    The Native Americans here in the US learned way back in1850 or so to never trust the US government, as it speaks with forked tongue. The Russians too have learned that simple truth, but only in the last few decades.
     
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    I have not gotten any information from the IRG - regardless, the same can be said about the US propaganda machine.

    It wasn't Iran that armed Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria - that would be the USA - El Saud and others.
    It wasn't Iran that attacked Iraq back in the 1980's - that would be Saddam aided by the USA - including the US of chemical weapons.
    It wasn't Iran that attacked Libya - turning that nation into a Jihadist wonderland .. that would be USA.
    It isn't Iran that is on the side of Al Qaeda in Yemen... that would be El Saud - USA.
    It wasn't Iran that attacked Iraq - turning that nation into a Jihadist wonderland - that would be the USA
    It wasn't Iran that turned Afghanistan into a Jihadist wonderland - USA and our beloved partner - El Saud.

    Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Islamic Front, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Shabaab, Boko Haram and numerous other Sunni Salafi extremists groups around the world "ALL" follow the same Saudi inspired Salafist extremist ideology ... not the "Iranian" ideology.

    Saudi Arabia has been exporting this poison all over the world for decades - arming and supporting many of these groups.

    Last - It wasn't Iran that was supporting Al Qaeda (911 terrorists) - that would be Saudi Arabia.
     
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    Iran is not impressed by this macho silliness and warns America it could put their own forces in danger.

    https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/I...oops-in-Middle-East-if-IRGC-designated-586066
     
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