US diplomat’s wife leaves UK after becoming suspect in fatal road crash

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There was also an old thread on this forum a while back about a teenager in Saudi Arabia who made a post on Twitter that Allah wasn't real, and then he had to flee the country to Malaysia. But the Saudis issued an arrest warrant for the teen through Interpol, and they had him extradited back to Saudi Arabia where he was convicted of blasphemy and served a 2-year prison sentence and was whipped a dozen times.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...urnalist-arrested-over-muhammad-tweet.232079/


And of course don't forget the whole fiasco with the Assange extradition, which is just a little too complicated to get into right now here.

You'd have to read through the entire threads:
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/julian-assange-last-chance.556431/page-8
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/julian-assange-sweden-still-unclear.557121/

Yes, they are two extremes.
We can, and should, have neither.
Though doing so makes things a little more complicated.​

 

Maybe the US and Britain can work out a deal and swap this woman for Assange?

 

I doubt it is a joke to the family of the dead boy.
Or that they would want to be part of some kind of international game playing.
It happened a week or so ago, and the other driver has bogged off tout suite with narry a thought for the family that has been devastated by the event that she was part of.
This is not an American issue, it is a do the right thing issue. It is unfortunate that on this occasion it was an American person, because from what I can gather the American legal system is so clever they can argue the moon is made of cheese and win, and following that path of legal and diplomatic protection and obfuscation the driver in question is able to avoid responsibility.
A sad and troubling case.

 

How can they run? We have completely bleached them out.

no colors left

 

The subject of diplomatic immunity is commonly used to escape from minor breaches such as illegal parking etc. but in this case while not murder it was manslaughter. The lady in question had hardly left the American base and was driving on the wrong side of the road killing a young guy on a motorbike. If she was ignorant of the driving laws in England then she shouldn’t have been driving
I understand the complex matters returning her to England so why can’t she face the charge of manslaughter in American courts, I am sure England would pay the prosecution costs

 

Because the US courts have no jurisdiction over that. It has to happen in the UK. And so after the killer receives it's sentence, there is always a possibility to go to a jail in your own country. And that is not a hassle if both countries got some agreement on that how that goes. No doubt the US and UK got that.

 

Assange aint British.

 

Yes, diplomatic immunity has its positive and negative aspects. For the most part it is positive and necessary. On rare occasions it has unintended consequences. Nothing is perfect. Tragic situation.

 

Exactly. He is an Australian abandoned by his criminal government, being held illegally in a British prison by a cabal of criminal governments because he has published facts and evidence showing that criminality.

 

An update from our side, the incident was captured by a roadside camera and the young lad was taken to hospital but he died soon after. The lady responsible told the police that she would be in England for questioning but fairly soon after flew to America. We learnt today that Trump turned down the request for her to be sent back to England. So she has got away scot free and its not going down well over here.

 

"President Trump says driving on the wrong side of the road "happens", when questioned about the death of Harry Dunn in Northamptonshire."

Well done Trump! "Sh!t happens". He could not care less

 

It wouldn’t be Trumps call to send her back, only to revoke the diplomatic immunity. At that point, unless she voluntarily returned, the UK courts would need to raise an extradition request, which would be decided by the US courts.

Of course, it could be argued that since her husband is no longer in the UK fulfilling his diplomatic role, the immunity question is moot and they could raise the extradition request anyway. The extradition process provides the same kind of protection from abuse that immunity is intended to. I’m not sure how the legal technicalities would work out though.

 

Actually this is not true, you couldn't be more wrong.



Though I admit this seems like one of those things like the Imperial system which the USA and like 3 African nations use.

Travel more!

 

Interesting. All of the posts responding to that one were either agreeing with or defending Trump's responsibility, but nobody seems to care about the "US are cowards" slur.

 

Americans are used to getting away with murder, especially our government.

 

Tens of thousands of Americans visit the UK every year, both college students and holiday visitors. The UK is very high on the list as a favourite place for American’s to visit as they don’t have a language barrier to overcome and London is largely a mix of many cultures.
Quite a few Americans drive in the UK without any problem as it gives them the opportunity to explore the rest of what the nation has to offer.
I have never heard that they are involved in more accidents than their English counterparts.
Apart from driving on the wrong side you would be driving from the wrong side of the car i.e. from the inside left which again tells you that you are driving on the wrong side of the road.
I have heard that the lady didn’t have a good record of driving in America also which again doesn’t mean that her driving in a foreign country would be any better.
A last point is to return to my opening remarks, the lady escaped justice by using the cloak of diplomatic immunity which no ordinary American enjoys, so if found in the same position, and they would, without question, face a trial in the UK.

 

A slur against a country, hurt your little feels? lol

Somebody is DEAD. And the US flees for it's responsibilities.

 

Diplomat's wife just lost her immunity.....

 

Where did you see that?

 

Home page news...just wait, it'll be all over the news...

 

Her immunity ran out when she returned to the US. This was pointed out by the foreign secretary Domenic Raab and later confirmed by Trump.
However, she was covered by immunity at the time of the accident so it's unclear what will happen next.

 

I'm not sure if she can be extradited to the UK. And whether she "lost" her immunity is a matter of opinion. State Department still says "no" to waiving immunity.

 

If she thought she was innocent, she would not have cut and run!!!

 

What'll happen next? She's rich, she will live a happy life delighted she got away with killing an innocent person. She may even go on holiday in England killing at will and dancing away.

 

Diplomatic immunity only works if you stay in that country, she left so she's lost immunity. Also, if the crime too high, the person's home country can agree to waive immunity. The staff of diplomats are also covered.