US finally cutting off welfare to gazan arabs

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  1. jimmy rivers

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    https://www.timesofisrael.com/cash-strapped-un-refugee-agency-to-cut-back-operations-in-gaza/

    This move is long overdue, it is time the gazan arabs build a functional, real society and economy and stop relying upon Europe and the US to fund their their existence.

    Welfare by definition for an extended period of time is destructive to the recipient, 75 years of it is devastating - and now its time to end the handouts and the arabs to grow up and stop blaming everyone else for their failings, terrorism and vile behaviour like teaching children to become "martyrs."

    It is also time to end hamas so the gazan arabs have a chance to live a decent existence.
     
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    I'm glad we're cutting Gazan aid. We shouldn't support the Gazan Palestinians because they are like a wasp's nest, a den of terrorists.
     
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    Palestinian governments have wasted their funding to personal pockets ala Arafat
    and supporting terror / continued State of War with Israel rather than spending it
    to build a nation with an economy, housing, infrastructure, internal security, maybe
    even a reputable university with a Medical, Nurse, Optometry and Dental Schools.
     
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    we should also cut all aid to Israel, which is indirectly used to fund their illegal settlement regime
     
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    Israelis and American corporations who get billions in welfare from American tax dollars every year strongly disagree.
     
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    I’m all for cutting off aid to everyone. Why should my tax money be just handed out to someone? I work hard enough to care about every dollar I make.
     
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    LOL and you think the Israelis want your money? They DON'T.

    Most of it has to be spent on US goods, and believe me, the'd be THRILLED to not have to be under the US' thumb as leverage for that aid.

    BTW, the iraqis got more in one year than Israel has in 70, did you speak up about that, or is it only when jews get it that you've an issue?
     
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    No way. Israel is an important ally in the fight against Islamic terror.
     
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    Laughable.

    I have never seen any political protests by Israelis who demand that the USA stop financing its war machine. Do you have any proof to back up this laughable claim?

    Right wingers on this forum have repeatedly lied about the claim that "Obama threw Israel under the bus" because they feel he did not give them enough of our money.

    Want to have peace in this troubled world? Get the USA government out of Israel and the Middle East region. Let those people solve their own problems without our tax dollars.
     
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    Israel is the world's biggest exporter of terrorism which is financed by USA tax dollars.
     
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    And I'm the king of Siam
     
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    I think the guilt-ridden euros will make up the difference

    Which is still better than sticking it to the American taxpayers
     
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    Jerry Lawler claims to be the King of Wrestling.

    Didn't you and him grapple in the ring at one time? Did he beat you and proclaimed the Crown after that? ;)
     
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    they cry "anti-semitism!!!!" whenever someone in Congress suggests we cut aid to Israel.
     
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    Go look up the Lavi fighter, china radar sales, and iran. The US aid over its head meant:

    1) that in the 1980s Israel could have developed its own jet fighter far superior to the F16, but was forced not to by the pentagon who was afraid of losing arms sales

    2) Israel could have made a lot from its sales to china but was prevented by the pentagon who feared having to potentially face Israeli tech on the battlefield

    3) Israel would have attacked iran years, if not decades ago, and terminated this existential threat - but was refused permission by Bush. As a result the mideast has suffered several more wars initiated by iran when its regime could have been taken out.

    4) Israel would have wiped out hezbollah in 2006 if not for US pressure to end the war that year after 30 days. Without such interference Israel would have finished the job cleansing that terrorist vermin out of lebanon.

    BTW, if the US leaves the mideast, it leaves a vacuum - as happened in syria - for russia/putin and iran to fill. Is that your goal? Are you on their payroll?
     
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    Good thread. I almost never see discussions on improving their lives.
     
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    One of the top loyalty acid tests of the Democratic Party is to openly declare hatred of Israel. You again proved your loyalty with your message.

    Hating Jews is the oldest bigotry in the world and the Democratic Party is build 100% on bigotry. That's what the Democratic party endlessly advocates for - bigotry and segregation.

    Every Jew on earth could be killed and the Democratic Party would be ranting about how the dust of cremating THE JEWS would damage the environment so instead demand their bodies be ground up and fed to pigs. Any excuse, any way, to attack Israel and Jews.
     
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    Your's is a Democrat TDS message attempting to derail this thread. Nothing new about that.

    The Democratic Party's WAR ON TRUTH is in ongoing hyperventilating and tantrum throwing hysteria. OMG! We are NOT going to continue to finance attacks against Israelis? That is UNTHINKABLE to the Democratic Party, who envisions gaining control so they can bring in tens of millions of Muslims all handed voter registration cards.
     
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    ^ pure hatred.



    Had you bothered to do your homework, you would know that the vast majority of USA Jews call themselves liberals, vote Democrat, and did not finance the Nazi party as did your pals in the Republican party.


    https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_Hitler.pdf
     
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    Head of Democrats for Putin
     
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    More lies from a known crackpot conspiracy theorist.
     
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    We should support Palestinians. And we shouldn’t support Israel.

    If we support Israel, we should support Palestine.

    There should be no such thing as “ally.” We all poop the same, and any idiot sayin we need allies in that region also supports, as a result, the need of enemies. Enough.
     
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    And you never will. The strongest condemnation of hamas you'll ever get from them is: "well, no one here supports hamas..." as if they're doing us a favor by stating even that.

    That's the strongest proof that the racists attacking Israel really hate the pal arabs; they say/do nothing that will IMPROVE the lives of the gazan arabs - like eliminating hamas and removing the iranian regime's malignant influence from the region/conflict - they simply hate jews and the Israel/arab conflict gives them a fig leaf/cover with which to obscure that hatred behind.

    Have any of these people given any thought that boycotting Israel campaigns destroy employment for the arabs? Of course not, and they couldn't care less if it left every arab destitute in the streets with a cup, as long as the jews are made to suffer, everyone and everything else is collateral damage. But they won't ever do anything constructive or support something positive, like democratic/human rights for the gazan/pal arabs, or going to the region and trying to stop the terrorists, protesting against them there or anywhere else.

    According to these people, despite the pal arabs receiving more UN/international aid than any other group - EVER - and they are still incapable of building a functional economy and society, just like their bretheren in the 22 other arab states, its all Israel's fault, no matter what the facts on the ground are. To them, hamas and the diseased, violent culture of death the pal arabs promote is merely a sidenote.
     
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    Unfortunately, improving their lives would reduce their willingness to be used as pawns against Israel. Maybe one day they will get a leader that cares about them more then they hate Jews.
     
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    US military aid to Israel is 6 billion a year which equates to $10,000 per capita and how about the trillions you have spent fighting their enemies on their behalf. I see no difference between an Islamic state and Israel which is also run by extremist religious ideology.
     
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