US has NO Aircraft Carrier in the Gulf Nov 15, 2015

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  1. MMC

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    According to the WSJ today, Nov 15 2015 The US does not have an Aircraft Carrier in the Gulf. Do we have any Navy peeps that can validate that?


    This month, for the first time since 2007, there is no U.S. Navy aircraft carrier in the Gulf. Instead, France’s sole carrier, Charles de Gaulle, will sail there in coming days to project the Western resolve.....snip~

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/france-readies-to-expand-its-war-on-islamists-1447618203

    The French will project the Western Resolve? [​IMG]
     
  2. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's true, Obama can't even keep a Carrier Strike Groups on station in the 5th Fleet AOR. Obama has neglected the U.S. Navy, under Obama the U.S. Navy isn't in the war fighting business but the liberal PC social engineering business.

    Obama is the CnC (incompetent CnC) of Obama's PC Navy.
     
  3. MMC

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    Mornin Apache. [​IMG] Yeah, I checked with a couple Navy guys at work. We have no Aircraft carrier in the gulf. Just the French.....as you can see they say they are relying on the Cowardly French to project Western Resolve.

    What a mistake that is.....the French are major (*)(*)(*)(*) ups and a bunch of backstabbing chumps.

    Its time the US took a different stance with France. We don't need to be so buddy-buddy like with those mopes.
     
  4. APACHERAT

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    Update:

    When MMC reported the dirty little secret that there were no U.S. Navy carriers in the Persian Gulf, Secretary of Defense Ash Carter ordered the USS Truman and it's few escorts to depart Norfolk Naval Base and haul ass to the Persian Gulf before the Russians and French destroy all of the good targets in Syria and Iraq.

    The Truman CSG departed Norfolk this past Monday on Nov. 16th.

    But scuttlebutt is than the Navy FA-18's will still have their hands tied behind their backs with Obama's politically correct rules of engagement and will only be allowed to bomb trucks in particular oil tanker trucks. It's classified if the trucks have to be empty and if they will be allowed to bomb any trucks if there's an ISIS driver in the cab of the truck.

    http://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html
     
  5. MMC

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    Yeah and now the French departed to head over to the Syrian Coast. Guess they could do with out that Western Resolve being in the Gulf for a few days, huh?
     
  6. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    What are we even doing in Syria? Seriously. Let Russia, France, the rest of Europe, and now China? have at it.
     
  7. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    America has become irrevevernt in the Middle East. We are no longer the super power we were from 1946 to 2008.

    Obama's legacy will be the first post WW ll President who wasn't the leader of the free world.
     
  8. dairyair

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    We are no where near the ME. So we don't need to be their militarily. Let the neighbors of the ME protect their own part of the world.
     
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    Obama has already eliminated those who use to keep the lid on the Middle East pressure cooker.

    What we are seeing today in the Middle East is a result of Obama's failed foreign policies.

    It was the French and the British who drew up the borders of the Middle East.

    Look at Sub Sahara Africa today, a complete basket case. Who's to blame ? All of the European colonial powers who gave their colonies independence during the 50's, 60's and 70's without ever preparing them for independence.

    The closest thing America ever had as a colony was the Philippines and America spent 50 years trying to prepare them for independence.
     
  10. dairyair

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    America at 1st didn't assimilate. It took a civil war, near 90 yrs after declaration as a country and we had a civil war.
    Things take generations to assimilate.

    And it isn't our business to keep a lid on the ME. That is 90% of the problem. Is they don't want us keeping a lid on them. Wake up.
     
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    The War Between the States was not about assimilation, it was first about states rights and federal authority, and second about slavery.
     
  12. dairyair

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    Wrong. But it is expected.
    Read all the cessation declarations.
     
  13. APACHERAT

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    America didn't assimilate ? Assimilate to who ?

    You bring up the American Civil War or was it a rebellion ?

    Europe didn't outlaw slavery until the 1820's and 1830's. Great Britain outlawed slavery in 1833.

    America like Europe would have followed suit in 1833, but something happened in 1831 in America, the Nat Turner Rebellion and if you read what history is written from, the Nat Turner Rebellion is why slavery wasn't abolished in America in the early / mid 1830's.

    They stopped teaching that history starting in the 1960's. I wonder why ?

    What should be taught, in 1831 OMFG !!! black slaves went on a murdering and raping rampage. And that's why slavery continued into the 1860's.
    And the murdering and raping continues today. Just like it does in Watts, Compton, Oakland, Harlem, South Side Chicago and even South Africa.

    The Middle East pressure cooker, it was Arab leaders like Mubarak and Muammar Gaddafi and believe it or not Assad who kept radical Islamist like Al Qaeda at bay. They kept the lid on the pressure cooker, not America.

    Did you really believe Obama that Al Qaeda was being decimated and was on the run ? It was just another Obama lie to get reelected.

    Not so funny but on 9-10-01 the most evil man on Earth was Saddam Hussein. Funny how memory lapse works, doesn't it ?

    Not so funny how so many forget why Al Qaeda declared war on America in 1996. It all had to do with Bill Clinton being a pantywaist.
     
  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    And how well did that work? they ended up with a woman who spent their GNP on shoes and are still something of a basket case today. We are NOT the world's, and particularly the Middle East's, policeman, we can't afford it and never could. Let the French and the Russians bankrupt themselves for a few years; unless we want to join the Arabs living in a third world (*)(*)(*)(*)hole we have to fix our roads, dams and harbors. It's time we realized that several trillions is a little high for giving some war nerds hardons
     
  15. dairyair

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    Hmm, slaves rebelled, go figure.
    I know that leaders like Saddam kept a lid on radical islamist.
    But cowboy bush thought he could reshape it, make it better for our oil companies.
    He is responsible for what we have today. And all who bought into his lies.
     
  16. APACHERAT

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    G.W. Bush was a neoconservative and they are no different than loony liberals who believe in nation building.
     
  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Oh, and one other thing, the whole point of Aircraft Carriers is they can MOVE, right? You can send them where there needed when they're needed, they don't have to stay there forever.
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    In that we agree, but I don't know of too many liberals loony enough to believe in nation building except Bill Maher.
     
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    Well most of us who were around or those who were younger but remember history as it was unfolding remember Imelda Marcos.

    Maybe we should have spent one hundred years preparing the P.I.'s for independence ?

    Well, it could have been worse.

    There's a former Navy Admiral and his name slips my mind and it shouldn't because he's the one who awarded me my first Navy Commendation Medal in 69. But during the early 90's I saw him at a convention where he spent some time telling how it was a big pain in the butt dealing with Marcos.

    Imelda Marcos was like the Philippines version of Barack Obama, he just didn't get it.
     
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    Well today in Obama's PC Navy, maybe two or three at most out of ten can move at any given time. :smile:
     
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    Hillary Clinton is a big time nation building progressive.

    There are numerous books that quote Hillary saying that the U.S. military should be deployed to third world countries to dig irrigation ditched and building roads and hospitals in the world.

    Obama looks at the military the same way.
     
  22. dairyair

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    Not nation building. Nation control. Most all are oil nations. All for our western oil companies.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oil, that's right.

    That's why the frogs wanted regime change in Libya.

    But why did the UK get involved with the frogs ? With all of that oil in the North Sea, were they that much dependent on Muammar's oil ?
     
  24. MMC

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    Oh are they still blaming Bush Jr for all the trouble in the ME. When do you think they will figure out what part the Sunni and Shia Arabs played?

    They really do need to come up with another excuse. As Bilbo Clinton made his incompetency known, when playing with the Big Boys.
     
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    Due to the actions of the inhabitants of the Middle East, we've been forced to be their militarily since the time of Thomas Jefferson. This didn't start in the 20th century.
     

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