US Interior Secretary: Naval Blockade is an Option for Dealing with Russia

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  1. RehnSport

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    Sometimes I really wish the west could attack Russia just to see the soyboy armies getting ****ed in the ass. Its funny how you never learn.
     
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    what makes you think that they're the ones that have been 'brainwashed'...
     
  3. Ethereal

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    The needless escalation of tensions between the USA and Russia is positively criminal. To even mention the possibility of blockading Russia is insanity. I cannot believe how dumb and reckless some people in this country have become. They have lost their minds.
     
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    War between the USA and Russia would result in mutually assured destruction. Neither side would come out a winner. To even entertain the possibility of a war with Russia is madness.
     
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    Are we in high-school or something? Sometimes I cannot tell.

    Given the level of discourse, one could forget that we're talking about the possibility of nuclear war, which would result in the total and mutual destruction of American and Russian civilization. And yet my fellow Americans are treating this possibility with casual abandon. They don't seem to understand just how close we are to total annihilation. Or if they do understand, they simply do not care. Apparently, they are more concerned with macho posturing than they are with the preservation of a stable international order.
     
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    Thank you for openly admitting that you are in fact committing aggression against Russia in violation of all international laws and norms.
     
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    if it does happen, none of us will know about it, ever... so why worry thyself...
     
  8. Ethereal

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    What?

    Who nominated you the spokesperson for the USA?
     
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    Because I don't want to die or to live in the aftermath of a nuclear wasteland.
     
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    who would, but no sense in fretting over that which one cannot control... what's worse, nuclear annihilation or sloooowly dying from starvation & disease... my vote goes for the fireworks display, therefore i live in a target rich environment...
     
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    Can we blockade Russia? Yes especially in the west. But it would not be advisable, it would be much better to use diplomacy then force. Russia is a weakened country, but prideful and could be induced into doing something stupid. A war with them conventionally would be a pain though doable. But most likely it would end with a nuclear launch and then no more world.
     
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    But we can control it. There is nothing stopping Americans from voting out the lunatics who are responsible for these gratuitous escalations. And short of that, we can at least generate political resistance to their agenda by combating and discrediting the ideological basis for their policies. Obviously, I don't expect to change the world by posting on an internet forum, but I would like to make whatever small contribution I can. As for the choice between nuclear annihilation and starvation, I'd go with the nuclear option. But I don't see how that's relevant to my earlier arguments.
     
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    This is nothing more than mine is bigger than yours.

    The fact is that Russia, the sick man of Europe, is having a hard time intimidating Turkey and Eastern Europe.

    China just laughs at the Russians.
     
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    Russia knows that the USA is not afraid of their military prowess.
     
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    "No more world" is precisely why a nuclear launch is exceedingly unlikely even in a wartime scenario. Better to end a conflict conventionally or diplomatically than go the nuclear route.

    But I'm not advocating any war with Russia, myself, and I doubt there will ever be one. These political disputes backed with economic measures do not justify mobilizing armies and rockets, no matter how the rhetoric may be ratcheted up.
     
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    I think you underestimate the willingness for some to see the end of their country as worth ending the world.
     
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    Hell would be such a lonely place without you all.
     
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    I see a rendering of the CIA-backed precursors to Al Qaeda shooting down Russian helicopters in Afghanistan... not sure what that has to do with my post. Are you implying something?
     
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    Best not to give such people the nuclear launch codes, or any nukes at all for that matter.
     
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    The precursors to the Taliban, I would have thought.
     
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    I fail to see the relevance.
     
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    We were discussing war with Iran.

    Even so, I think people overestimate a nuclear war.

    While it would be devastating I doubt it would wipe everyone out.

    The biggest problem would be the loss of infrastructure.

    Plus we have a shadow government that could make sure we still have leadership and organization.
     
  24. Ethereal

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    You're discounting the important role of human and system error. There have been incidents where error nearly caused a nuclear war between the USA and Russia. The existence of nuclear weaponry on hair-trigger alert is an existential threat to human civilization. Even the tiniest probability that it could misfire should be taken extremely seriously by every sane human being. Unfortunately, more and more people, especially in the west, seem to be losing their sanity in the face of endless fear-mongering over a wildly exaggerated Russian threat. They seem to take a fairly casual attitude towards US-Russian relations. Many of their macho comments remind me of a high school locker room.

    People like you are the ones ratcheting up the rhetoric. You're the ones screaming your heads off 24/7 about some vast Russian conspiracy. All you do is attack Russia, demonize its political leadership, and advocate for increased confrontation with them. And anyone who tries to argue in favor of diplomacy and compromise with Russia, you insinuate or outright accuse them of being Russian agents.
     
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