US Lawmakers Seek to Criminalize Boycotts of Israel

No Arab country has any economy to speak of, except oil. Why would tiny Gaza?
Note you didn't even address my post/point and why they have such a huge issue: Wabbits!

As far as calorie-starved Gazans, which I have never heard of on any significant scale...

Gaza's weight-loss centers - Al-Monitor
www.al-monitor.com/pulse/.../2015/.../gaza-palestinan-obesity-diseases-diet-fitness.ht...
Mar 22, 2015 - Obesity in the Gaza Strip has increased as of late, with many Palestinians in Gaza seeking to shed pounds with the help of weight-loss centers.

LiveLeak.com - Gaza has one of the Highest Obesity rate in the world
DIA=liveleak 238 _1406451164/MEDIA
Jul 27, 2014 - “Palestinians”(Southern Assyrian's) who live in the Gaza Strip and the Wast Bank of Israel have the 8th highest obesity rate in the world, and the ...

Battle of the Bulge: Obesity in the Gaza Strip on the rise | Al Bawaba
https://www.albawaba.com/mena_voices/battle-bulge-obesity-gaza-strip-rise-672854
Mar 24, 2015 - Home » Mena Voices » Battle Of The Bulge: Obesity In The Gaza Strip On The Rise. ... Despite the deteriorating economic situation in the Gaza Strip, residents’ awareness of the danger of obesity has pushed many to seek out the services of weight-loss centers to help them overcome ...

The Obesity rate in Gaza is over 60% yet Israel is making them "starve ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Israel/.../the_obesity_rate_in_gaza_is_over_60_yet_israel_is...
Nov 4, 2014 - About. ברוכים הבאים ל-/ר/ישראל / Welcome to /r/Israel! Shalom! This subreddit exists to foster constructive conversation about the modern State of ...
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Poor use of pronoun. Who is "they" in your post?

 

Yet here you are typing while my coffie mug remains empty.........

 

How is it a poor use of a pronoun?

 

I can't think of any other group in the world with their very own ethno-state, but what's really remarkable is how this same group has convinced everyone else that ethno-states are bad. Actually, what's really remarkable is that they have convinced people who believe ethno-states are bad to defend and fund the Jewish ethno-state.

 

So, you are wrong? Israel has never started a war. Name one war they started. I have asked 3 or 4 times now. Why are you avoiding the question, but still replying?

 

We call them "Lefties" in Israel....

 

M. Begin has already answered your question with only a partial list of countries Israel has attacked up until 1982. (Please see below*)
In addition to this partial list, Israel has attacked Gaza in at least 3 "Wars" / Massacres employing their frequent "Provoke-then-slaughter" M.O.:
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Moshe Dayan, in his diaries said: "Our strategy was always to provoke the Arabs and get an appropriate response so we could attack and smash them."

Not included are Israel's attack on an Iraqi nuclear power plant, Syrian forces, frequent murderous forays into Lebanon & deceiving the US into fighting its wars for them(1).
After deceiving the US into entering the current Iraqi imbroglio, Israel also deploys snipers & IEDs to kill American troops with the goal of furthering anti Islamic / anti Iranian sentiment in the U.S.(2)

* “Begin's Admission in 1982 That Israel Started Three of Its Wars”
http://www.washingtonreport.me/1994...82-that-israel-started-three-of-its-wars.html

(1) “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003

(2) "Israeli Snipers are shooting hundreds of American soldiers in Iraq:"
http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/isra...ng-hundreds-of-american-soldiers-in-iraq.html

 

This excellent post deserves to be quoted and re-read.

 

Arab countries got massive economies going because of oil,.. why should tiny Gaza be at the rock bottom? With your claim that they got "troubling economic problems" ahead, seems obvious they need one.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/17/israeli-military-calorie-limit-gaza
The Jew homeland imposed food sanctions. That's how far the Jews go with their highly illegal collective punishment.

 

I just stated where they have, and you did not deny a single one of them.

 

So you agree with me.
The Arab countries without oil have virtually no economies, and many are worse off than Gaza, which is supported by the UNRWA.
Thus 'Arab Spring' started with a food/bread riot.

Again, Obesity is a far bigger problem than starvation in Gaza.
And you left off all my supporting info..
Let me add, Gaza is in far better shape than many Arab countries that have no USA/EU supported UNRWA as a backstop.
In fact, Cairenes, just 200 miles away have worse food and health problems, as does much of the Arab world, who would jump for joy with 2000+ Calorie days and free UNRWA health clinics, and prescription drug plans!
try again.
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Same here, right now there is a split with the majority of the American Jewish community and the right wing government in Israel

 

:^)
Legit LINK for this quote?
When I google it, all I get is YOU on several different boards, and a few conspiracy websites. Not even the decent pro-Palestinian sites.

Really!?!

EXCERPTS FROM BEGIN SPEECH AT NATIONAL DEFENSE COLLEGE
Special to the New York Times
Published: August 21, 1982
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/08/21/world/excerpts-from-begin-speech-at-national-defense-college.html[/B]

.......
The War of Independence

I will explain why: We had three wars which we fought without an alternative. The first was the war of independence, which began on Nov. 30, 1947, and lasted until January 1949.

What happened in that war, which we went off to fight with no alternative? Six thousand of our fighters were killed. We were then 650,000 Jews in Eretz Israel, and the number of fallen amounted to about 1 percent of the Jewish population.

The second war of no alternative was the Yom Kippur War and the war of attrition that preceded it. Our total casualties in that war of no alternative were 2,297 killed, 6,067 wounded. Together with the war of attrition - which was also a war of no alternative - 2,659 killed, 7,251 wounded. The terrible total: almost 10,000 casualties.

Our other wars were not without an alternative. In November 1956 we had a choice. The reason for going to war then was the need to destroy the fedayeen, who did not represent a danger to the existence of the state. Campaign for Sinai

Thus we went off to the Sinai campaign. At that time we conquered most of the Sinai Peninsula and reached Sharm el Sheikh. Actually, we accepted and submitted to an American dictate, mainly regarding the Gaza Strip (which David Ben Gurion called ''the liberated portion of the homeland''). John Foster Dulles, the then-Secretary of State, promised Ben Gurion that an Egyptian army would not return to Gaza.

The Egyptian Army did enter Gaza. David Ben Gurion sent Mrs. Meir to Washington to ask Foster Dulles: ''What happened? Where are the promises?'' And he replied, ''Would you resume the war for this?''

After 1957, Israel had to wait 10 full years for its flag to fly again over that liberated portion of the homeland. In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him. Wars With No Alternative

This was a war of self-defense in the noblest sense of the term. The Government of National Unity then established decided unanimously: we will take the initiative and attack the enemy, drive him back, and thus assure the security of Israel and the future of the nation."..."​

:^)
Slanderous conspiracy garbage with no legitimate source. ('blissful-wisdom'?)
Your specialty.
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Aren't many, even most, states 'ethno'.

Japan, ie, is a highly 'pure', 99+% Ethno-state, with virtually no immigration, and who looks on foreigners/gaijin far less friendily than Israelis do.
Asia in general is that way.
And there are scores of other Ethno-states.
Many have advantageous citizenship terms for returning ethno-nationals.

Most of the Gulf states are not only Arabs, but single tribe/tribe-group states: "emirates".
Try getting citizenship in Saudi Arabia, a large group of tribes.

India had to be separated in their contemporary 1947 partition into two different religious states.
Did you not know this, or do we have some unfortunate sentiments at work?
Did you miss the Balkans recent break up?
What about the more Black (Christian/Animist) South Sudan having to be separated from the more Arabo-Muslim genociders in the North just a few years ago?

and I could go on, and on.

Brewskier:
"Actually, what's really remarkable is that they have convinced people who believe ethno-states are bad to defend and fund the Jewish ethno-state.

It's quite opposite actually. "anti-Nationalists" only seem to surface when Israel comes up.
Your post is not only an example of that, but attributes hypocrisy and nefarious motive to only Israel.
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Srsly? How can somebody miss 22 countries?

Funny thing is that most of those who rail against Israel for being a racist-by-definition ethno-state are also fervent supporters of a 23d Arab ethno-state in its place. Go figure.

Each and every one of the 15 million individuals in said group? If only such a substantial unanimity was possible...

 

I wouldn't expect YOU to be satisfied with any critical response to your Zionist colony's propensity for aggression or to receive a factual and complete response from someone so openly loyal to Israel over the US.

1. An honest and more thorough search through the internet reveals that there are numerous references to Moshe Dayan's quote that are NOT from me. The quote is in his diary

2. You conspicuously evaded my references to unprovoked Israeli aggression / attacks on Gaza, Iraq, Syria etc. The deliberate attack on our USS Liberty would also qualify as an aggressive Israeli act of war.

3. I'll leave it to more fair minded readers to determine whether the source citing Israeli sniper murders of US Troops in Iraq is a "conspiracy" site (a popular slander technique among Israel's Hasbara crowd)

For more information on an infamous Israeli sniper killing Americans simply Google "Juba, Israeli sniper"

 

This is your usual baseless Lie/Slander.
I am not loyal to Israel over the USA

IOW and LOL, despite making the search, even you could Not find a credible link to said 'quote/'diary'.
More than half the citations are.... YOU.

The mistaken Liberty attack is shopworn BS for which neither you nor anyone else has proof. Gaza was, of course, provoked, etc

LOFL again.
AS with the Dayan quote, You conspicuously could not post a credible link.
This Loony one is way further off the Deep End than the Liberty charge.

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Part 2,
Debunking Grau, "Juba" and "Israeli"

So for the Third time in One post, you FAILED to provide a credible link, and instead suggest a search which turns up only your usual conspiracy garbage that he is Israeli... or even extant as a single individual.

Juba Israeli Sniper
https://www.google.com/search?q=Juba,+Israeli+sniper&oq=Juba,+Israeli+sniper&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30k1.20725.22489.0.22797.2.2.0.0.0.0.95.175.2.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.2.175...0i30k1.7J94h9v7fw4

The first link up in the search (WaPo), Despite me including YOUR word 'Israeli' in the search mentions this [Legend] "juba," and explains the crazy "legend" and how it morphed into "even" "Conspiracy web sites" claim he/they are an Israeli.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-of-american-soldiers/?utm_term=.ef85b1b8730f

Iraqi Sniper: The legendary insurgent who claimed to have killed scores of American troops
By Adam Taylor January 22, 2015

In "American Sniper," the wildly successful yet controversial film that tells the story of Chris Kyle, said to be the most lethal sniper in U.S. military history, the titular marksman has a clear foe: A mysterious insurgent dubbed "Mustafa," believed to be a former Syrian Olympian.

While the film portrays Mustafa as a mighty rival to Kyle, in the autobiographical book upon which the film is based, Mustafa earns just one paragraph....

It's not clear who Mustafa was or if he ever existed, but there were similar LEGENDS of Iraqi insurgent snipers. Probably the most famous was that of "Juba," a sniper with the Sunni insurgent group Islamic Army in Iraq, whose exploits were touted in several videos released between 2005 and 2007. Some attributed scores, even hundreds, of kills to the sniper, and accounts from the time suggest that he got deep under U.S. troops' skins....

According to ABC News, one video claiming to show "Juba" showed at least a dozen attacks on U.S. troops. In that video, the sniper claimed to have killed 143 U.S. service members....

"Juba" even sent a message to the U.S. president in one video. "I have nine bullets in this gun and I have a present for George Bush," the sniper tells the camera. "I am going to kill nine people."

After a couple of years, "Juba" seems to have ceased activity. Some have suggested that the sniper must have been killed, while others say that no one sniper ever actually existed. “Juba the Sniper? He’s a product of the U.S. military,” Capt. Brendan Hobbs told 'Stars and Stripes' in 2007. “We've built up this MYTH ourselves.” Certainly, some of the higher death tolls attributed to Juba seem far-fetched.

However, the Legend of Juba lives on online. Many videos claiming to show "Juba" in action still float around the Internet, purportedly showing the mysterious sniper picking off American personnel. At one point, there was even a Web site and blog that claimed to have been set up by the "Baghdad sniper" with messages in English and French.
A few years ago, rumors circulated on CONSPIRACY Web sites that "Juba" had been – shock! – an Israeli agent all along.

Much like the Mustafa of "American Sniper," at some point the LEGEND of Juba seems to have become intertwined with that of Chris Kyle. ...."​

Then there's Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juba_(sniper)

Juba (Arabic: جوبا‎‎) (a.k.a. "Joba") is the pseudonym of an Alleged sniper involved in the Iraq War's insurgency, featured in several videos. The second of these videos shows Juba claiming to have shot 37 American soldiers.[1]Whether Juba is a Real individual, a role shared among multiple individuals, or a Propaganda/media creation is Unknown.

Juba was allegedly murdered by ISIL in 2013 or 2014.[2]...​

There is NO mention of Mythical Juba even being an Israeli EXCEPT on Conspiracy web sites, which again, is why you FAILED to even try posting one.
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You have a laughably revealing opinion of what is "credible", a "mistaken attack" and what sources are "conspiracy sites" given the fact that very few people trust MSM.

If the Israeli attack on America's USS Liberty was an "accident", why, then, did IDF initially use UNMARKED planes and strafe lowered US life rafts?
"USS Liberty Veterans' Association"
https://www.usslibertyveterans.org/

Your original Off-Topic suggestion that Israel has never started a war is a laughable delusion that I am no longer interested in further debunking.

 

That's a nice list already, but I will add a couple more acts of war:
1.) Killing scientists in Iran.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-west-behind-tehran-bombings-iran-1.904534

2.) Killing Lebanon's P.M. Rafik Hariri.
http://thenewsdoctors.com/germany-and-the-uno-against-syria-thierry-meyssan/

 

The following 2 sources should clarify the truth behind at least 1 War that Israel started and has been repeatedly been blamed on the Arabs by America's pro-Israel media:

"Israel’s attack on Egypt in June ’67 was not ‘preemptive’"
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...ttack-on-egypt-in-june-67-was-not-preemptive/

EXCERPT "It is often claimed that Israel’s attack on Egypt that began the June 1967 “Six Day War” was a “preemptive” one. Implicit in that description is the notion that Israel was under imminent threat of an attack from Egypt. Yet this historical interpretation of the war is not sustained by the documentary record."CONTINUED

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"Israel provoked the Six-Day War in 1967, and it was not fighting for survival"
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/06/provoked-fighting-survival/

EXCERPTS "I am old enough to remember clearly how the Six-Day War was reported at the time. Just about everything we were told then was wrong, as the major historians of the period all acknowledge today. Let’s start with how the crisis was covered as it happened, 50 years ago……..

This Mainstream Narrative remains unchallenged in the popular imagination, 50 years later. Just the other day, a New York Times reporter stated as fact that in 1967, “Israel defied annihilation by its Arab neighbors.”CONTINUED

It is noteworthy that the Zionist dominated NY Times continues to perpetuate the myth of Israeli victimhood as recently as:
"Just the other day,...."

Thanks for your supplementary information.

 

But they have oil, so they have massive economies. Your argument contains a massive fallacy. Hence my point stands: why should tiny Gaza be at the rock bottom? With your claim that they got "troubling economic problems" ahead, seems obvious they need one.

There is a direct link between malnutrition and obesity.

 

But we were talking about Gaza, which does Not have an oil economy.
So it's YOU with the massive fallacy....and Gaza is NOT "the rock bottom" of Arab poverty. I already busted you on that last point.

and overeating and obesity too. That's why they have weight control centers.
We already know they have a relatively HIGH calorie count compared to other nearby broke-ass Arabs.
Not to mention (again) the USA/EU supported UNRWA pampering the palestinian 'refugees' like no other.

You can't debate me and you know it. That's why you don't quote me fairly nor respond to what is said.
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It remains a fallacy to make up the hypothetical situation no Arab countries got oil to make the comparison stick with Gaza.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
gaza - westbank ranked 167th. And you bet Gaza is worse than the WB.
That is rock bottom. Fact.

I sourced the Jew homeland counts calories to push them to the brink of malnutrition.
And that has a direct link to obesity.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...trition-in-gaza-blamed-on-israel-1019521.html

The Red Cross report says that "the embargo has had a devastating effect for a large proportion of households who have had to make major changes on the composition of their food basket." Households were now obtaining 80 per cent of their calories from cereals, sugar and oil. "The actual food basket is considered to be insufficient from a nutritional perspective."

That is why the get fat. The Jews are the cause of that with their collective punishment of Muslims, in this ethnic war.