US military advantage has eroded, study says

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  1. APACHERAT

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    US military advantage has eroded...

    I already knew that.

    Russia and China thanks Obama and the Democrats in Congress.




    For you who watch C-Span, how many have watched the Armed Service Committees hearings in Congress ?

    Have you noticed the Republicans are concerned are our troops properly trained, will their guns pop when they pull the trigger, will their aircraft fly and can the navy's warships put to sea and fight ?

    Democrats aren't concerned bout if are military can fight and win wars.

    While everyone of the Democrats except for a few are more concerned with the social engineering of the military, women serving in combat, gender friendly toilets, we need more gays and lesbians serving and drag queens being allowed to dress in drag while on duty.

    Then there's obama sequestration that pretty much allowed the U.S. military to completely disintegrate under Obama's watch.
     
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    i'd also venture to surmise, that at least a few 'key' individuals in those contracted companies deliberately f'd up things, ie: elevators on aircraft carrier, f35 amongst others... what are their party allegiances?
     
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    Thanks democrats!
     
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    Republicans have had total control over the government for 2 years.

    But I guess tax cuts for the rich were more important.
     
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    Did you forget the pubs voted 195 in favor of sequester while the dems threw in 95 votes.
    Sounds like a Boner sequester to me.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) better known as the Little Crappy Ship, Zumwalt class destroyers and the newest aircraft carrier the USS G.H. Bush are perfect examples on how not to build warships.

    All of these ships were designed by computers not by naval architects and engineers using a draft board and slide rule.
    All were under construction while still being designed liked the magnetic catapults and arresting gear on our newest carrier that were never tested before being built into the ship.

    The same is true with the F-35, designed by a computer. No way will the F-35 B ever be able to accomplish the mission of providing close airsuport for our Marine grunts on the ground.

    But under Obama little money was spent on maintenance of our weapons platforms but they always had enough money for PC diversity classes instead of our troops training for war.
     
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    Actually, I've noticed that the Republicans are mostly interested that the production for the next military procurement contract is in their district. What it produces and whether it works or not is not important to them.
     
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    When President Obama signed his sequestration into law he said any attempt by Congress repealing the sequestration he would use his pen and veto it.


    Obama owns sequester

    excerpts:

    ‘The Price of Politics’ shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of [Jack Lew, then-budget director during the negotiations] and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors — probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government,” ...


    “Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid [D-Nev.]. They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved.”...


    the automatic $1.2 trillion federal spending cuts over the next decade that take effect March 1 — has become a rallying cry of sorts for Republicans, unusual given their typical criticism of the mainstream media. Democrats, including the president, have tried to put the blame on the already unpopular House Republicans....

    https://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/bob-woodward-obama-owns-sequestration-087978
     
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    Well that explains what happened to California, most of the aerospace and military industrial companies got the **** out of California just like all other industries.

    Liberals in California hate industries bigley.
     
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    The house republicans taking direction from Obama?
    Tell us some more funny stories.
     
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    The Republicans called what they thought was an Obama bluff.

    When they found out that Obama wasn't bluffing, Obama quickly signed the sequestration into law with a warning that he would veto any attempt by Congress repealing his sequestration.

    That the facts not cultural-marxist revisionist history.
     
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    The mineshaft gap is at an alltime high!
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Best Cold War movie ever made, wasn't it ?

     
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    Why did Republicans under Bush approve of all of those designs?
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They went stupid and used Google and Wikipedia.

    Remember, most of the U.S. Army brass and no Marines ever approved of adopting the M-16 rifle.
     
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    Which was designed by engineers using draft boards and slide rules.
     
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    @APACHERAT

    You realize you can’t design stealth aircraft using slide rules, right? Hell, they can’t even fly without massive computer support.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sgt. Gene Stoner wasn't an engineer.
    Stoner who was working for ArmaLite at the time was just developing a rifle for Gen. Curtis LeMay to replace the Air Force's M-1 and M-2 carbines.
     
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    Eugene Stoner most definitely was an engineer and the M-16/AR-15 was based on his earlier AR-10 design that had nothing to do with LeMay.

    Still doesn’t change the fact that the M-16 was designed on a draft board and using slide rules.
     
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    They say the first true stealth aircraft was Lockheed's SR-71 that was designed on a draft board with engineers using slide rules.
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    Remember this bomber designed by Northrop right after WW ll in 1947 ?
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    The SR-71 wasn’t really stealthy at all. The Russians could see it on radar from almost the year it was deployed.

    The B-49 wasn’t stealthy by any measure (radar or infrared). Just because it was a flying wing, that doesn’t mean it was like a B-2.

    For that matter, the B-49 project was cancelled becaus the design was wildly unstable and couldn’t be safely flown.
     
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    The SR-71 relied on speed and altitude, not stealth.
    The flying wing concept had been done before and was a flop.
     
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    Until fly-by-wire and computer design made it possible to fly.
     
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    Yes, starting with the Canadian Avro CF-105 Arrow in 1958.

    "The first non-experimental aircraft that was designed and flown (in 1958 ) with a fly-by-wire flight control system was the Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow,[7][8] a feat not repeated with a production aircraft until Concorde in 1969. "

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly-by-wire
     
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    Eugene Stoner maybe an engineer who never earned a BS in engineering.

    Stoner only attend high school and served in the U.S. Marine Corps.
    Now a Marine Corps discharge certificate is worth a bachelor of science degree many would say.

    Many Navy ratings and Air Force MOS's are worth a college degree.


    One of the top electrical engineers in America who use to work for the aerospace industry never spent one day in a college classroom.

    Come to think of it I can come up with more than a few top engineers who never attended college and earned a degree.

    I'm sure there are a few on the PF who could build a full automatic rifle in their garages with just a block of steel, a lathe, drill press and some files.
     

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