US Regime Change Blueprint Proposed Venezuelan Electricity Blackouts as ‘Watershed Event’

Imperial sabotage exposed by Wikileaks:

September 2010 memo

BS detector went off because of the convenient timing of the blackouts.

 

This is very good news for the people of Venezuela......



https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...sia-get-out-venezuela-oval-office-sot-vpx.cnn

Trump on Venezuela: Russia has to get out

 

Great, this is exactly the sort of thing we need to be doing.

 

Land a few hundred Marines....call their bluff?

 

Really? Maduro strangles the nation, and America is to blame for predicting it would happened. Check your freezer, your ice cream is melting.

 

No, by way of numerous sanctions, by way of the cyber attack against their electrical system, the US has been strangling the country.

 

Ah, the lies we tell ourselves just to escape reality.

 

You demonstrate it every day here, certainly with your last post.

Since the Bush administration the US has been strangling Venezuela. Not providing parts for the F-16s we sold them is but one example.

The victims are the people of Venezuela are the victims, as the electricity situation shows. This falls in line with a pattern of interference with legitimate governments practiced by Washington.

 

Trump has a switch in the Oval Office. It’s marked “on” and “off”. He flips it back and forth according to his mood.

 

When Russia entered Syria and began bombing tankers with stolen oil to cut off ISS's funds, the US felt they had to attempt some legitimacy as to why they were in Syria, so they began their own bombing campaign. One of the first things bombed by the coalition were the electric and water purifying plants in Aleppo and it shocked the Russians. They couldn't understand why they were adding to the sufferings of the Syrian people.

Seems Moscow was still a bit naïve, and couldn't differentiate between the pseudo compassion shown by Obama, and the reality of Washington's intents.

 

Wouldn't the implication that Maduro destroyed the economy of Venezuela at the same time that we applied sanctions to destroy the economy be an oxymoron? It can't be both, either the economy is being hurt by Maduro or it's being hurt by our sanctions. Which one is it?

Anyway Russia is supplying medical and other aid through the auspices of the UN. It's amazing the way we love to kill the sick and vulnerable with sanctions. The EU is no better though, they did it to Greece a member nation. As for food, it's supplied by Maduro as well as by family gardens. It's a tropical country, so every house has its mango tree.



And we will live on Mangos!

 

Oh you mean killing off the poor through sanctions and wars? You know there are other ways to lower the world population problem such as helping them prosper rather than throwing them into poverty. That way they'll start thinking of educating their children, and stop having so many.

 

Who said anything about killing them off?

 

But isn't that what we're doing when we deny people medicine? And isn't it what we're doing when we push for regime changes against the elected officials since it does lead to civil wars and strife?

 

You aren't looking at it from the right perspective.

You believe our biggest concern as a nation should be the welfare of humans all over the world.

That is incorrect.

Our first concern as a nation is the security of our nation and our values and way of life.

To that end is why we interfere in other nations business for many different reasons.

It's called realism hun.

Each nation is expected to do what is in their own best interest to protect their nation.

If causing a civil war in another nation ultimately benefits us and our people than it is the right thing to do. If giving them aid helps us more then that is what we should do.

Your love of humanity is noted but you can't run a nation on that utopic belief.

 

Oh, then it's okay to commit crimes as long as it's in the best interest of the ones committing them? Thanks for letting us know.

Venezuela does bode the question though, what gain is there for the American people - and I'm not talking here about the Venezuelan friends of Senator Rubio of the Miami crime family? I mean the real American people. We're supposed to be a democracy you know?

Come on guys!
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It's sociopath time
and time for the sleaze,
to gain what we can
and do as we please - Jeannette



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If you support US terrorism against Venezuela you are a coward and you can't say anything about illegal immigration. Many of the refugees are from Honduras thanks to a US supported coup in 2009.

 

Was just hearing in a genetics talk that almost all American Indian's genetics go back as far as they have been able to find skeletons and that is 13,000 years. Probably much the same in South America. On yer bikes America!

 

But they were white - oddly enough. The cranium and long face skull is more of a European and Middle Eastern trait than a Siberian one. From what I read the scientists are having problems holding on to the skull and skeleton for further analysis. They put in a court order to keep an Indian tribe from confiscating it and burying it.
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I think there's more to it than that. They probably want money, because what would a few weeks difference make when it comes to burying it. I mean it's been unburied for 13,000 years. Anyway I'm not too sure of the accuracy in the dating. I'm still trying to reconcile everything to the flood of Noah, and believe me it's not easy.

 

I think but am not sure that the guy I was listening to was called David Reich. He is one of the top people in this work and he was categorical that almost all American Indians come from one group and they have been there in the US for as far back as they have found samples which he said was 13,000,000 years.

That being said, there is a strong likelihood that they came from EuroAsia and when asked the exact place he said 'East Asia' and somewhere else. I know he said East Asia because I wound it back to check it was not South Asia as he spoke a lot in the talk about these genes being high in South Asians. If I remember correctly most Europeans, particularly the French, or they were the ones he mentioned if my memory serves me well, have a strong mixture - but then I might be getting mixed up with the Stepps.

No, according to him in what I think was a pretty recent video and him being one of the top experts almost all your Indians come from one line and have been living there for an exceedingly long time. They did mix with Europeans - and here I am not sure if there may have been more than one line of them but almost all American Indians come from one line with the furthest back knowledge of them coming from East Asia and somewhere else. Talk about pinching a thread! Sorry Horhey.

 

Oops I obviously meant 13 thousand years, not 13 million!

 

Encapsulates the selfish cold calculating nature of America,

it's not "you must die so we can live" it is 'you must die so we can feast on caviar and bathe ourselves in gold"

 

My hobby is studying ancient archeology and anthropology. I've never heard the claim that natives have been here for 13,000 years. Genetics of ancient mummies found in the Americas show that Europeans were in America 30,000 years ago. North American Indians oddly have an "X" gene that links them to Europeans.
Nearly one-third of Native American genes come from west Eurasian people linked to the Middle East and Europe, rather than entirely from East Asians as previously thought, according to a newly sequenced genome. https://news.nationalgeographic.com...e-american-people-migration-siberia-genetics/

 

OK, I have not in any way studied this though of course it is Interesting. I will put in the video. I think it is about a year old so that would be newer than your link. The introduction says he is recognised as one of the top ten scientists working on ancient DNA data. Now he makes clear many times during the video that geneticists have make a lot of mistakes. Siberia seems to be the place people are looking for people! He speaks about around 2010 a finger bone of a little girl was found in a cave in Siberia. This was German's working. There was also a tooth which had DNA from an adult but showed a relation to the finger bone. They investigated this for links to both Neanderthals and modern humans. It was linked to Neanderthals but not modern Humans and even the link to Neanderthals was not desperately close - maybe a few hundred of thousand years ago. What they had identified was a new population. Enter Denisovans. That is she was of Neanderthal and Denisovan mixture. New Guinean's are the people who most strongly come from Denisovan's but they have some mixture all around the East including Australia. He said that would be about 5% in New Guinea, a 20th of that in East Asia and nothing in Europe or Africa. There is a very recent discovery in the same area of a girl who had a Neanderthal Mother and a Denisovan Father.

He says Pandora's box has been opened and all sorts of things which we did not know about we do now.

Now, hold your hat, the population which we think of as white or West Euroasians, simply did not exist 10,000 years ago and if they look at the DNA of Europeans, Iranians and people from the ME there is very little DNA difference - far less than there is with the people of for instance East Asia.

They collected and published data about this in 2016, that is 3 years after your article. Present day Western Eurasians are a mixture of 4 populations - some are Iranian early farmers, some ME Farmers from places like Israel and Jordan at about the same time, also old Western Europe hunter gathers and Eastern European hunter gatherers. They moved about and interbred but they did not wipe each other out as had sometimes been thought. Large scale migration was very common in our past. Agriculture moved in from Turkey around 9,000 years ago and quickly spread about all the way to the UK and Sweden a few thousand years later. Europe ancestry consists of hunter gatherers of Europe, first Turkey farmers or a mixture ....but there is a new ancestry which comes from the last 5000 years. 5000 years ago Europeans were composed of only 2 populations, the original European hunter gatherers and the early Turkish farmers, but only in the last 5000 years have a new population appeared. I haven't 'noted' more on that. Maybe he did not say more, maybe it is something 'cooking'. You may find it when you look. It doesn't go with the arrival of Native American's because as you will see below they are suspected to have been the original Europeans, or one of them. It may be that they only moved in to the areas where the Native Americans were 5,000 years ago which may end up meaning that American Indians developed Stonehenge because I know I heard somewhere that these new people who arrived later killed off the people who created Stonehenge.

With the very sophisticated techniques they now have they looked at various mixes. For instance with French people they found a mixture that one population was Southern European and the other was Native American's. (this will not mean all French DNA just a subgroup) They believe that sometime earlier than 15,000 years ago there was a population which they called the Ancient North Eurasians - they made the name up and that was the population which moved across to the Americas and some people from those people also mixed with Europeans This they call a 'ghost population' that means a population the remains of whom you can find in people living later but who you don't have access to in unmixed form. A year and a half after they had made this discovery a group were working in Denmark found the Siberian little boy your link is on. He was a better surrogate for French people than he was for Native Americans. He was genetically related to both Native Americans and Europeans but not closely related to people in Siberia today. It would however not make sense that Europeans were in the US before Native American's when Europeans as we know them now have only come into existence in the last 10,000 years. You may remember that last year they came out with the DNA of who they thought was the earliest Brit. He was black with blue eyes.We appear to have come into being after Native American's who appear to have been living in Europe before who are now Europeans arrived. It appears they intermixed a bit and then the old population, the descendants of whom are Native American's possibly not liking the new people left and inhabited the America's.

At 57.28 an American is asking about the first americans. He says with very few exceptions, they are a single homogeneous ancestral population which was already in place at the time of the oldest excavated skeleton 'and there are some additional events which have happened since then' He was asked about Siberia and asked to say what their genetics are. He says they are two thirds related to East Asians and one third to 'the people he mentioned at the beginning' which would I think be the 'ghost people' or the 'Ancient North Eurasians' who appear to some extent to have genetically mixed with Europeans and who then left for the America's or possibly most of them had left for the America's before and just a few were left who eventually became a 'ghost' population in the new European people. He did go a bit shy when speaking at the end in respect of where north American's came from and possibly the European connection is still needing work put on it but it appears they were a group distinct from modern Europeans who probably are first known from East Asia, then moved to Western Europe where some of them interbred with later Europeans and then moved much later to the Americas as others were coming into Western Europe. Native Americans may have been the original Europeans but they are not modern Europeans apart from the mixing they did in Europe. Who knows we may find out later people chased them out of Europe!!

OK I looked again at part of that to get you some more information but now I must get on with something else. I may have made the odd mistake but I think that is about right. I am sure you will enjoy the whole thing. I did and it is the first genetic talk I have watched.

 

Thing is, the nazis used this same argument, and anyone can use it, as you just did to justify actions. Personally, I see it as a psychopath's reasoning. As many people do.

You just negated accepted christian belief and doctrine, to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Yes. quite utopian of an idea. ha ha

So, lets stop bashing nazis of the past and embrace them. You just did, whether you realize it or not.

What happens in venezuela, does not affect our national security nor is it in my interest or any other average american's interests. Who thinks that nation is gonna attack us? ha ha But if they do plan to mount an attack on the US, you then would have justification for your beliefs.

It is because of thinkers like yourself that I have no great hope for humanity. Or for my own nation ever living in peace with the world. And, your mentality is not what our Founders had in mind in founding this nation, this republic. IMO.