US Regime Change Blueprint Proposed Venezuelan Electricity Blackouts as ‘Watershed Event’

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  1. alexa

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    The United States intent is to deprive the people of Venezuela of the resources which are necessary for survival - food and drinkable water. As such imo this is as depraved an attack on civilians as we have seen from the West since the Holocaust.
     
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    How much of this is Maduro's fault?

    Can you give us a percentage?
     
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    You know, I have wondered for a very long time, what kind of nation we would be, if we actually tried to live by the Golden Rule( and not the rule that says, "he who has the gold, makes the rules")

    What if the US, our so called gov't by and for the people, treated all other nations, the way we as a People want to be treated, by other nations? What if we did not interfere in nations south of our border, in the interests of our elite capitalists, but simply tried to help, instead of using our gov't, our CIA, to further the economic interests of our elites?

    Of course, it is not that hard to understand the interest the US had, during the Cold War, to try to see to it that the "Communist Revolution" did not push capitalism and democracy to the side, to destroy it. But many times, when we did this, at the same time, it also involved our elites getting access to the resources of another nation, and creating wealth for our elites, and not so much the people who owned those resources, in those nations. Books have been written about this, and yet it seems so few of us here, ever bothered to read what the actual facts were, and what was involved in our interference, and even taking down a gov't, and its leaders. And sometimes the leader we helped to put into place were horrible dictators, but who allowed our elites to plunder resources of that nation.

    If anyone thinks this did not happen, and if it was not real common, please, enlighten yourself, by factual information, for otherwise being an uninformed person only insures a disconnect from reality. And a person who is disconnected from basic reality, can still vote, and that doesn't help at all, it only sustains a reality that should be unacceptable to a moral being, but quite acceptable to the same mindset seen in the elites of this world, those who don't have much of a chance of ever walking in the paradise believed in by religions like christianity.

    Of course, I don't think the US will ever be a moral nation, setting an example for the rest of the world, a shining light on a hill, for the self interests of those who put money in first place has always dictated foreign policy, at least for as long as I can remember. We will never treat other nations and other people, as we, as americans want to be treated. Hell, even many of our so called christians will have none of that!! ha ha

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    And this is importnat, why?
     
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    It is clearly not Madura's fault that the US is involved in Cyber war against Venezuela. The US's guy was of course doing what the US wanted and trying to get people in protests. Apparently even his people, the white people did not go on them. One group went on a riot and stole and messed up a supermarket and Juan was delighted but that was only one.

    We are I suspect seeing the first cyber war. The US is continually cutting of their electricity. The intent is to deprive the people of food and water. It is the sickest thing I have found in my lifetime. Now whether this is what the US usually does when it is wanting to steal the resources of another country is of course a different question, this is simply the first time I have come across it. People have been saying cyber war is what we will have until Climate Catastrophy. This looks like the first. Those responsible should be arrested. Basically the intent would appear to be genocide. That is not surprising seeing the people who are involved.
     
  6. Creasy Tvedt

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    None of this is Maduro's fault. Is that what you're saying?
     
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    The nation was basically founded on taking from others and making it their own.
    Natives have little plots of land that are sovereign, so at least the USA did that.
    But yes, we always meddle in other countries to benefit our elites. Who are now, politicians, who get greased by the industries they serve in those countries.

    Many migrants from South America, are a result of our meddling in those countries making life hell for those that are basically forced to leave.
     
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    Likely as much as a puppet is at fault. A puppet only does as the master with the strings does.
     
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    Well, most nations, at some point were founded, created, by taking land away from some native. The latest addition of that involved the New World, where the technologically superior humans, conquered and took away what the less technological advanced had. As long as we recognize this fact and it isn't peculiar to just this nation, but is the history of our species, it gives much needed context.

    Granted, some of the migration we see is due to our actions, either in less recent or more recent history, but that is only one aspect of it. Involved in this also is who conquered those nations south of us, and what sort of system they set up, the spanish, primarily. And it was different from what the english settlers created here, in the US. A total different philosophy was involved, different values, when comparing our founders to the founders of those nations south of us. So, there is more involved than just our meddling, our influence, our rich capitalists. But I do not know what the ratios are in this regard.
     
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    LOL. I can always count on you for a good laugh.
     
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    That's as absurdly bizarre, as Maduro's atrocities are dementedly sick.
     
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    Russia made treaties with Venezuela about 18 years ago, and it includes arms, so it's not easy for the US to attack directly - at least without a good excuse. What the US is trying to do, or so I believe, is send in paid militants from the neighboring countries to destroy Venezuela the way they did Syria.

    In order to bomb like they did in Syria with the false flag chemical attacks, Washington has to have a good excuse, and what better one than killing Guaido who hasn't managed to gain much support from the people, and then put the blame Maduro. No wonder Guaido is being guarded well by the Venezuelan police.

    China is heavily invested in Venezuela and certainly doesn't want to lose its funds, so it's helping them solve their electrical problems. Russia's supplying Venezuela with the medicine that's been cut off with the sanctions. They are also helping them become more self sufficient - especially in developing their agricultural as well as militarily. After all its experiences in Syria, Moscow knows very well how the American agents and its military works.

     
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    OK, so 'indoctrination' and 'education' are somewhat blurred?
     
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    I'll call it "experience".

    Better?
     
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    You mean socialist programs for the industry Eisenhower warned against in 1961? He was quite right you know.....
     
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    Now the socialist paradise is out of drinking water.. and don't thinkit can't get worse... it can get much worse.. just look at the Norks. People without the means to defend themselves can remain forever enslaved.
     
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    Yup. Those too.
     
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    Had you watched the video in the OP - you may have been able to make an educated comment. The above is uneducated gibberish :)

    The economic war the US has been waging against Venezuela - while perhaps not being the only cause - has definitely contributed to the problems in Venezuela.
     
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    As is the case with many who are ignorant of the meaning of the word "Socialism" - you are confusing socialist policy with totalitarianism.

    Not sure what "Norks" - a woman's breasts - have to do with the issue :)
     
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    Socialism can only be imposed with totalitarianism.. so yes.. the two go hand in hand (Norks= North Koreans)
     

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