US shutting down Dakota Access oil pipeline protest camp

The Army Corps of Engineers' plan to close a Dakota Access pipeline protest camp that's been around for more than six months isn't likely to be the demise of on-the-ground opposition in North Dakota.

The deadline for the protesters to leave also may not spell the end of heavy law enforcement presence near where the Dallas-based developer is finishing the last big section of the pipeline, which will carry oil from North Dakota through the Dakotas and Iowa to a shipping point in Illinois.




The protest camp is on federal land in southern North Dakota between the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation and the pipeline route.

It has at times housed thousands of people, though it's dwindled to just a couple hundred as the pipeline battle has largely moved into the courts.

The Corps has told those who remain in the Oceti Sakowin camp that they needed to leave by 2 pm today. Governor Doug Burgum listed the same time and date in an emergency evacuation order last week.

Large-scale arrests are possible at the camp today, said Morton County sheriff's spokeswoman Maxine Herr, but she insists that's not want authorities want.

Though law enforcement and state officials in the past said they wouldn't forcibly evict protesters, they now cite the coming threat of spring flooding as a safety issue that requires clearing the camp.

"We prefer to handle this in a more diplomatic, understanding way," she said, adding that a transition center will be set up to help protesters who don't have a place to go.

Some protesters plan to move, but some in the camp are ready to go to jail and "will engage in peaceful, civil resistance ... Holding hands, standing in prayer," said American Indian activist Chase Iron Eyes.

Morton County sheriff's deputies can arrest people who won't leave. Army Corps rangers who are in the area can't make arrests, but they can write citations for various offenses including trespassing that carry a maximum punishment of a USD 5,000 fine or six months in jail, Corps Captain Ryan Hignight said.

More than 700 protest-related arrests have occurred since August, though activity has waned recently.

While some in camp feel "under threat" by today's deadline, most are focusing on moving off federal land and away from the flood plain, said Phyllis Young, one of the camp leaders.
Source: http://www.business-standard.com/ar...oil-pipeline-protest-camp-117022200341_1.html

 

Very disturbing that human beings have to go to these extents to get media coverage of a threat to naturally pure water, an unalienable right and that government is complicit in its destruction.

Because the PURPOSE of free speech is abridged the public doesn't know how badly the environment is compromised in some areas. It is very important to preserve water in its natural state and not allow its widespread contamination.

Pipeline ruptures, when they occur release far more than mobile transport and inspections very often do not catch substandard work that causes a breach within 20 years. It happened here in Santa Barbara a couple of years ago resulting from poor inspections of backfill and surface drainage.

They are embarrassed to release details of the cause. Too stupid.

Bad stretch of pipe gets repaired. In the process another hundred feet is unearthed, back fill never get compacted and surface has a puddle. Weeds grow. Cows eat the weeds and urinate in the same place for some months per year. Urine is very corrosive and eats through coatings and pipe w/600psi ruptured spilling 120k gallons into the pacific.

Then, they can almost never return the environment of the spill back to what it was. They also provide no guarantees for replacement or substitute water. The people take a big hit for corporate profits.

In the case of the dapl pipeline there are almost no jobs created in America and the oil goes to China, extending more oil dependence into the world and ushering in increased populations. This while pollution from every aspect of the tar sands transport is only in America.

Media is so biased the true condition of many environments that are damaged are really not known.

 

It's just a big pipe that oil flows through. We put men on the moon in 1969 we can damn sure build a pipeline that doesn't leak.

 

Perhaps, but the cost goes way up.

In the case of pulling 1.5 miles of steel
pipe under a lake on the Missouri River that millions of people depend on for water its insane to not require pipelines that will not fail.

 

People stand over huge storage tanks and pump gasoline into their cars every day and trust the technology not to kill them. We could forget pipelines and live like Mennonites I guess and swear off fossil fuels altogether.

 

That would be a cognitive distortions of "overgeneralization" and "minimization" not related to oil sands transportation across the country. Then it's capped off with "all or nothing thinking" in another distortion of "maximization" directed at inducing some emotional reasoning. Critical thinking cannot be done with distortions.

Seems your training cut a lot of corners on subtlety.

Going from not feeding China oil, increasing populations and oil dependency globally while NOT polluting America with commerce that bringsno jobs is a major stretch to suggesting I recommend giving up oil altogether.

What, you trying to alienate people from reason and critical thinking?

 

The pipe never comes close to the water in the lake under which it runs.

https://daplpipelinefacts.com/

 

It's 90 to 115 feet below the bottom of the lake, which means nothing if it ruptures.

 

Define "rupture". What will happen if it "ruptures" ??

 

So you see no down side to transport of oil by truck or train?

 

It's still just a pipe and if it breaks what do you bet they designed stop valves to shut off the flow?

 

In santa barbara the state superior court gave them a waiver to the installation of flow protection shut down valves. That is why 120k gallons hit the surf.

1)Do you know how often they install $250k valves in miles long lines?

2)Do you know the volume of what will gravity onto the environment from a leak between valves. Do you know HOW the valves are actuated and how often they are inspected?

3)How will the environment be restored where the oil leaks?

4)How will water, if effected, be supplied in quantities people need until rectification of the problem?

5)Should American state citizens be compensated for the loss of water service?

6)Should they be compensated for any health effects they experience?

7)Who bonds the pipeline for these compensations and assures the public is protected?

Will you ever stop trying to minimize in favor of corporate profits and against unalienable rights of Americans?

9)Who pays you?

 

Here you go. All your questions are answered in this document (Environmental assessment: Dakota Access Pipeline Project, crossings of flowage easements and federal lands) by the Army Corp of Engineers. Of course the politicized Obama EPA objects - the precautionary principle is strong when environmentalists place the welfare of the environment above the welfare of human beings.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a23658/dakota-pipeline-protests/

http://cdm16021.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/ref/collection/p16021coll7/id/2801

 

The encampment is a cesspool. They've had their say, and it isn't going their way. Sometimes life is like that. Time to go and let the adults clean up their mess.

 

And these people claim to be environmentalists ??

 

Provided there's no Apollo 13 type accident, ( sticking to the space analog) or Exxon Valdez, or Deep water Horizon......

Anyhow, I'm for it too.

 

Uh, popular mechanics? Really?

I see no accountability, I see BS rhetorical citation produced by the oil industry.

Please extract from those sites answers to 4,5,6,7,8 and explain why you post in favor of massive profits for energy corporations while also ignoring serious accountability issues if you are NOT being paid.

I know those issues are not addressed, so I'm not wasting my time going through your subterfuge BS.

 

No, Army Corp of Engineers. Have you heard of them ?? You are perfectly capable of reading and understanding their report, no ??

 

Yes and I'm not wasting my time because I know the questions asked are not answered there. Those issues are out of the purview of the ACOE. I notice you are not even trying to produce answers.

Here is how well clean ups go from pipeline spills.

http://alternativemediasyndicate.co...ill-no-near-cleaning-oil-pipeline-spill-2013/

 

Yes, definitely. But volumes are limited while increasing global dependence on oil is NOT significantly bolstered by that mode of transport. It's not affordable for export. We must cease allowing the expansion of petroleum dependence at some point.

It is really a mass psychological problem causing these behaviors. Without justice and the PURPOSE of free speech, the root of that can never be addressed effectively. Therein is the great need for the American lawful and peaceful revolution.

http://algoxy.com/law/lawfulpeacefulrevolution.html

 

As I suspected your anti pipeline stance is not really about pipelines it's about oil and your overall hatred of it.

 

It's an environmental impact study. Spills are considered as well as the instrumentation to detect them.

 

Hmm, misinterpretation serving energy corporations that are multinationals operating under GATT.

Actually I'm a gear head. Diesels are a favorite tool. However, I admit that I love clean air and water so seek to limit needless uses of petroleum.

Apparently you've over looked that which supports your existence. Oops, failure = extinction in this case!

I also understand the problem is a behavioral problem at its root. Like a bunch of mentally ill people using a hibachi in a closed house for heat and cooking, but its okay because they have wine, vodka and a TV. Are you selling WHINE or advertising it by promoting the problem?

 

I understand both well. The questions the study does not answer are these.

 

No one pays me for being able to distinguish between the economic benefits and risks of the Dakota Access Pipeline. Should a disaster occur the pipeline company, the oil companies, and the US gov will act to minimize the damages and compensate those adversely affected just as they always do.