USA judge allows white substance to be added to Stanley Meyer device?

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Do you think the judge was pressured into that silly act?

  1. Yes.... obviously... the inventor stated it needed clear tap water!

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  2. No....... USA prosecutors would never lie.

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  3. Yes... the judge was right... the Stanley Meyer device could destroy the USA economy!

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  4. I am not sure what to think of this!

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  5. Stanley Meyer was a fraud... who cares about that white substance!

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  6. Billions of dollars were at stake.... stuff happens!

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do you personally think of this act?

    Personally............. the judge in this case was either one of North America's most naïve justices or more likely......… he had gotten pressure from fairly high up...… to allow this travesty of justice to take place!


    http://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/stanley-meyers-and-zero-point-energy.42388/



     
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    Hmmm, following that, the audio recording of the hearing is stopped so know one knew what was said.

    I've studied VIC and presented it to very high level electronics engineers. What is published as a schematic will not work, but it appears that such a circuit can work, but it is unknown by duplicating performance because a VIC and toroid magnets have not been built that perform.

    It is not known if that was because of the design flaw in the VIC which the working version is part PWM, and the other part a unique electrolysis unit using very dense magnetic flux of a particular configuration focused in a small area.

    The engineer I consulted with indicated that two PWM's, with the correct feedback loops and phasing could conceivably create a resonance in the water/gasses electrolyzing, concentrated locally, that might increase effective gas production of the electrolytic action in a greatly enhanced, energetic fashion.

    It seems possible Meyer may have described something like this in detail, which was scientifically valid, so the judge, not wanting the public to know critical design details, stopped the recording.
    Then, later, the plans integrated the botched/flawed circuit to aid in disinforming the public. The plans I found.

    Either that or it was complete fraud on ALL fronts.

    The one thing really should make us all wonder, is the fact there are thousands and thousands of witnesses to Meyers VW. Amongst them were some very shrewd automotive technicians who had inspected the equipment extensively and quite a few of them agreed, only water was involved.

    "Who framed Rodger Rabbit?"

    And where is that book called "The a Hundredth Monkey" that was written in 1962 by 23 Japanese biologists. No, not the one by the same name written in 1974 by Keyes. That one leaves out all the science.
     
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    Wow!

    I am so glad that you are extremely well informed about the Stanley Meyer technology!

    I am not certain what you mean by the words...…
    … but I am sure that you don't mean by Stanley Meyer because if he had been any sort of a fraud...… he would have accepted the one billion dollar offer!

    http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html
     
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    Here is a link to one of the first articles I ever read about the Stanley Meyer device.

    http://www.theorionproject.org/en/stan_meyer_visit_2008.html

    The Orion Project Visits Stan Meyer’s Technology




     
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    There is the remote possibility that the known fraud of courts was used
    to reinforce a debunking scam for free energy. Saudis would participate in that also.

    But, because of that VW, and competent inspections of it, the likelihood of a complete fraud is not great.

    What is likely is that Meyer had done a good deal of experimentation that his brother and partner did not understand. The physics of water as it changes to a gas and that of magnetism is not well understood. In fact, a number of experiments of Faraday and Tesla are simply not explained at all.

    At any rate, the VIC had to work with gas laws in application of electrolysis that used high frequency pulses of DC conjunct with pulsating magnetism perfectly coordinated according to theory that science does not hold for us.

    Neither electroalysis or magnetism is well enough documented to derive the laws of physics Meyer was exploiting.
     
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    This reminds me of.......

    http://www.sordrescue.com/

    http://www.sordrescue.com/uploads/4/7/7/9/47798703/12-16-16_energy_energy.pdf

    Mark Taylor
     
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    Dennis you linked me to this thread because I assume you want me to talk about my point of view.

    I voted as so:
    1. *Yes... the judge was right... the Stanley Meyer device could destroy the USA economy!
    2. *I am not sure what to think of this!
    3. *Billions of dollars were at stake.... stuff happens!
    I think that this is a real project that works, but it's being suppressed due to dark reasons linked to the oil industry. It's about the money. Good luck ever getting past that condition.
     
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    Our off the scale well informed friend from the forum here from a few years ago mentioned some details on this that I assume he wants made public in the correct timing...... I am thinking that that timing is very, very, very soon.........
     
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    Seriously impressive comments on this!

    Wow!!!!!
     
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    He gave the name of a company..... that had technology well beyond the Stanley Meyer dune buggy.... the name of that company is very, very, very, very famous.........

    Stanley Meyer was correct that there indeed was a military application for a dune buggy that could get a hundred miles per gallon on tap water......

    One of the many possibilities of putting that technology like that on the market would be to increase humidity in desert regions.... which should result in much more rapid greening of the deserts.... even beyond the mega-scale desalination of ocean water that I've been advocating since 2007.......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...illion-dollar-problem.525406/#post-1068713597
     
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    They added the stuff to prove that his theory wasn't working. If it was working, the electrolyte would have been irrelevant. Meyer was a fraud.
     
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    In my opinion the Stanley Meyer device called for tap water and they added a substance that would seem to prove that his idea did not work so that it could be stolen from him. A dune buggy that can get one hundred miles per gallon on tap water..... .or spring water.... .or lake water.... has obvious military potential.
     
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    But it's impossible. There is not enough energy in water to even break down water into hydrogen and oxygen (takes more energy to break water apart than you ever get from combining it again). I love your enthusiasm, but what you are talking about is chemically impossible. Meyer was a con-man who made a lot of money out of scientifically illiterate people who were gullible enough to believe him. If his invention really worked, a car company would have bought it, and destroyed all of their competitors. Think about it. If you had a patent for this and it actually worked, you could be the only company that sold cars for almost 20 years. Also, if his theory was correct about how this worked, adding electrolytes would have made it more effective.

    Was the idea stolen from him? No, which proves you are incorrect.
     
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    Yes... the idea was stolen from him but not released to the general public just yet because it would wreck the oil industry.

    https://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html
     
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    It is simply impossible to get more energy out of burning hydrogen than it takes to break apart water into hydrogen and oxygen. Its a nice fantasy, but simply can't work. Meyer did a sleight of hand here. He used electrolysis to break down the water, but ended up using more battery power. This is a very inefficient electric car. It was simply a fraud. Please don't be so gullible. Use the brain that God gave you to critically examine things, not just think "the powers that be" stole it.
     
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    How do you steal an idea? Did they pluck Stan's idea right out of his head, and refuse to give it back?

    It was pretty crappy of Stan to keep his amazing boon to mankind idea to himself, so he could try and turn a buck off it. If he was a true humanitarian, and not just a selfish and greedy conniver, he'd would've given his revolutionary idea to the world before it stolen and suppressed, and Stan dropped dead, and took his big idea with him to the grave.

    Pointless pondering.

    Stan's idea wasn't stolen, because his idea was a big ol' fraudy fraud.

    Stan may have broken a few laws in his day, by the laws of physics were not among them.
     
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    He tried to get his idea out there to the public and even turned down a billion dollar offer from an oil shiek but he knew that that guy would have hidden his technology so he kept on looking for investors.





    https://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html
     
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    One problem with using water for fuel is what happens in freezing temperatures when the water goes solid???
     
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    I've got a honey of a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.

    I'll make you a sweet deal on it.
     
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    Stan invented non-freezing magical water.
     
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    I would be less surprised to find out the technology was supressed, and more surprised to find out the court acted appropriately.
     
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    You do have my interest because it would be possible to turn that bridge into a stage..... on which is enacted scenes from during the time periods when the bridge was in use....... and...... you could be speaking metaphorically.............. If so I am also interested in your metaphorial bridge in Brooklyn..............

    I am thinking in terms of at least attempting to arrange relative Shalom peace between two formerly warring kingdoms..........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/film-proposal-journal-of-elizabeth-smith.473241/
     
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