USA should prepare for the hypothesis of a civil war in western Europe

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by VotreAltesse, Jan 16, 2018.

  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,530
    Likes Received:
    5,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They should have had that WTF moment 2 years ago. Too late for any WTF moments now! 'Those whom the gods wish to destroy blah blah '!
     
  2. Ned Lud

    Ned Lud Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2017
    Messages:
    1,740
    Likes Received:
    490
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    I avoid reading the Old Testament for similar reasons. What weight to contemporary Muslims give to which passages in the Quran? Koranic scholar, ,are we?
     
  3. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,600
    Likes Received:
    22,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The nature of WTF moments is that you have them after it's too late to do anything about them. That's why Europe's "WTF moment" is still years in the future.

    If Europeans could have figured this out already, they could have avoided a future civil war.
     
  4. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    6,163
    Likes Received:
    3,096
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There is koranic scholar who spread violence. Some theorician of global djihad studied in Al Azzar, the most reputed islamic university in the wolrd. In Egypt, you can be either jew, christian or muslim, in Egypt and Pakistan, there is regulary attacks against christians, and too muslim minorities (sufis and shia).
    Ten muslims countries theorically condemn apostasy by murder, the actual status depend between the countries, some would probably not execute for this reasons.

    It's important to not renounce to understand or we will become sheep. You don't need to be a christian theologian or islamic theologian to understand the main aspect of christianism or islam.

    You can avoid to read the old testament, but the new testament have authority on that, and globally Jesus had a loving and peacefull message. All christian would agree to consider that Jesus is the most important in the bible, so the part of peace is the most important one. Traditionnaly, muslims considered the latest surate to be the one who have the most authority, and the Surate 9 is the latest and the most violent.

    Furthermore, there is a slighty difference between the ways christian and muslim understand their holy books :
    Traditionnaly, for christian, the bible was written by humans but under influence of the holy spirit.
    For muslims, the quran is the word of god, not Muhammed, Muhammed is the messager, he is supposed to have gave the word of god.
     
  5. Baff

    Baff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2016
    Messages:
    9,641
    Likes Received:
    2,003
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And yet I've never met a violent muslim.
    Go figure.
     
  6. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,530
    Likes Received:
    5,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, it all about 'nipping it in the bud' - in other words, foreseeing a future danger and dealing with the cause there and then. It's stark madness to allow nearly 5 million immigrants into any country unless the infrastructures have been extended to provide for that number. The fact that didn't happen here is why our health, accommodation, and social services are all at the point of collapse.
     
  7. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,600
    Likes Received:
    22,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you're saying the UK is ready to "nip it in the bud" now? I don't think so. A couple of years from now maybe, but by then it will be a problem to big to...nip.
     
  8. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,530
    Likes Received:
    5,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
     
    Lil Mike likes this.

Share This Page