Use marijuana?

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Use marijuana in a legalized state?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. I'm not sure.

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    4.1%
  1. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    How did you measure it at 250ug? Were you the chemist? I had my own little era of LSD usage back in the mid 80's to early 90s. Toward the end, LSD was no longer worth taking. Mushrooms are great, but they will freak you out. If you have a strong mind it will pass after 15 to 30 minutes. Then it is a spiritual awakening.

    As for the OP, I am waiting for it to become legal here and at the federal level so I won't have to worry about failing a drug test. But yeah, cannabis is like a daily vitamin. Some people go way overboard with it though. They smoke way more than they need. I am more of the microdose type. Just enough to feel better.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    basically it was racism back in the 30s that fueled anti-cannabis policy.
     
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    And racism plus targeting Vietnam war protesters (many of whom were hippies) that gave John Ehrlichman the bright idea to launch the contrived "war" on drugs.

    And unconstitutional.
     
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    A line of blow would have set you straight
     
  5. Reality

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    I'm not sure a line of cocaine is the best recipe for someone with an anxiety condition, who is naturally over excitable, and suffering from paranoia. Especially in poly-pharmacy.
     
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    By the same logic, teenage boys should not be able to drive with girls in the car. They act like total retards and drive recklessly
     
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    They came at 250 micro grams. And there is quite the history to the guy who made these orange sunshine hits in the late 60s early 70s. I cannot recall his name. He thought he was gonna change the world by making it.

    I think a trip should be a rite of passage for all people. Everyone should experience the different reality that LSD, mushrooms and DMT presents. I only used the drug for a short period, less than a year, but would not take anything for the experience. It was mind blowing, and unless you experience it, it is impossible to convey the qualities of that experience. Plus, the trip lasts for hours. You peak, and then it takes hours to come down back to earth. I was always so exhausted by the time I came down that I would crash and sleep a long time.
     
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    The coke kills the anxiety and paranoia.
    Perfect mix
     
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    The Long, Strange Trip of the Chemists Behind the Legendary LSD 'Orange Sunshine'
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    My experience with users of that substance, especially when experimenting with poly-pharmacy, is that they start pretty happy but once the head rush wears off in the first few minutes they get paranoid. Only meth and crack heads are worse with the checking the blinds constantly twitchy ****. Admittedly that is anecdotal mostly.
     
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    What does a teenage boy driving an automobile with a teenage girl have to do with marijuana usage? Adults drive like idiots on a regular basis; this is a part of reality that cannot be avoided. As for the public usage of marijuana and other mind altering substances, this is not a regular part of life and should be prohibited because of the irresponsibility that is inherent with its usage, which can be avoided by disallowing such behavior. This is why it is illegal to drive while under the influence of mind altering substances. As for driving erratically, this too is illegal and if caught, the offender will face a fine or suspension of driving privileges; erratic driving is not part of a normal course of affairs, yet it still occurs. Are you suggesting that because erratic driving occurs, the usage of mind altering substances should not be controlled when it is possible to control or disallow said behaviors? If you are supporting such a notion, think on this wisdom: if the usage of mind altering substances such as marijuana is made culturally and legally acceptable, the rates of automotive insurance will skyrocket, and in those states that do not require automobile insurance, there will be a move to make a requirement to obtain automobile insurance in those states because of the increased risk factors involved.
     
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    There is nothing inherently immoral with the use of a mind altering substance.
     
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    Like the inherent irresponsibility of teenage boys showing off for girls
     
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    Probably any neurotransmitter analogue or antagonist can cause unpredictable results. But if you have friends in the fda, you can make billions selling them
     
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    Nope, I'm subject to drug tests for my job.
     
  16. AlifQadr

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    Reality,

    I did not mention anything about the morality of using mind altering substances; I stated my case for opposition to the usage of said substances. As is usual, those who use such substances defend their usage, which is their right as it is my right to be in opposition of the use of mind altering substances.
     
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    "As for the public usage of marijuana and other mind altering substances, this is not a regular part of life and should be prohibited because of the irresponsibility that is inherent with its usage, which can be avoided by disallowing such behavior."

    You'll pardon me if I took the above statement as, amongst other things, a moral judgment. "not a regular part of life" "should be prohibited because of the irresponsibility that is INHERENT with its usage" How is irresponsibility inherent in using a very minorly psychoactive substance? Irresponsibility being immoral. You've proven no such thing, and while I'm not saying irresponsible behavior cannot result after use of a drug, I AM saying that it is by no means an inherent quality or unavoidable consequence.

    Also just to correct you: I don't CURRENTLY use marijuana. I said I WOULD "just as soon as this boot is off my neck" IE when it is legal.
     
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    That is your perspective about what I posted about the public usage or mind-altering substances.
    inherent
    involved in the constitution or essential character of something. Belonging by nature or habit.

    As I said, there is nothing about morality in what I posted; it is your perception that what I posted revolves around morality.
     
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    So you don't find irresponsible behavior immoral? And you don't find drug use inherently irresponsible?
     
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    Not at all are my words of a moralistic bent, it is a judgement call based in reasoning. Is a person with a knife holding it in a manner that will either cause injury to others an irresponsible act or is it considered a moral judgement call?
     
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    I live in WA and I dont partake.

    Im not a fan of it recreationally. I fully support legalization, but of all the folks I know who use it recreationally, most of them become lazy dullards. A few of them function just fine (until they have to go without it for a while), and the medical benefits are tantamount to miraculous. But no recreation for me.
     
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    Ive tried it a handful of times. Most of them while drunk. While drunk, I didnt notice anything other than a dry, burnt throat.

    The one time I tried it sober, it destroyed my mind for about 3 hours (I couldnt focus enough to even talk), and then I felt hung over- nautious, dehydrated, headache, dizzyness, for the rest of the day.

    Im just not a pot guy.
     
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    I'm from the Woodstock generation, need I say more? I was a computer consultant for over 40 years for many different international and domestic corporations. I did my best work under the influence and I don't mean alcohol, I barely tolerate that stuff. I don't believe I've ever done it anywhere where it was "legal". I know many professionals who have done it most of their lives. The "war" on drugs is a scam, just like all wars are. And all wars are a crime against humanity.
     
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