Use marijuana?

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Use marijuana in a legalized state?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. I'm not sure.

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  1. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Well said.

    I do (or choose not to do) any drug that I feel like doing (at anytime).

    "Legal status" means absolutely nothing to my decision process. :salute:
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    maybe once its heavily regulated and the potency is reduced, i'l try it in Cali.

    but not before.
     
  3. One Mind

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    You can buy different potency now in those states where it is completely legal. Since you have panic attacks, stay away from the sativa strain. Use indica. Not a sativa indica hybrid. Sativa, the really good stuff in the 70s would give me an occasional panic attack, short termed. But never severe enough to make me want to stop indulging. And they serve as a learning experience about your own mind. Self knowledge.
     
  4. FreshAir

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    do you think everclear should be banned, what is the max potency alcohol should be allowed to be - you big government people amaze me - you can already choose less potent versions ,your choice.. where legal, just like Alcohol
     
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  5. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It will take more research before I choose. It's not like the old days.

    https://www.leafly.com/start-exploring

    https://www.marijuana.com/strains/

    https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabi...brid-whats-the-difference-between-cannabis-ty
    When browsing Leafly or purchasing cannabis at a shop, you may notice strains are broken up into three distinct groups: indica, sativa, and hybrid.

    Indica strains are known for being physically sedating, perfect for relaxing with a movie or as a nightcap before bed. Sativas typically provide more invigorating, uplifting cerebral effects that pair well with physical activity, social gatherings, and creative projects. Hybrids tend to fall somewhere in between the indica-sativa spectrum, depending on the traits they inherit from their parent strains
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    Because of these perceived differences, medical patients using cannabis to treat their symptoms and conditions may also consider a strain’s classification. A patient suffering from fatigue or depression may use a sativa during the day, and another treating pain and insomnia will likely choose an indica strain at nighttime. High-CBD strains, which are preferred by patients treating seizures, anxiety, pain, and a few other conditions – may be of either category, but offer little to no psychoactive effects.....
     
  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, they choose not to open their mind, others may choose differently, it should be a choice

    Alcohol is legal, I choose not to drink, I don't though think cause I choose that, the government should choose it for everyone else
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    my first recommendation would be not to get Drunk while using, lot of those symptoms seem to be of drinking alcohol and dehydration, but the choice should always be yours
     
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  8. Tererun

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    I have done the substance before and would not say I would refuse the opportunity to do it again. I can see a time for wanting to do so. I am not that thrilled with that particular high. I will not be doing illegal things while on it. Laws like driving safely or not harming others are there for a purpose so being high is not an excuse for violating them. The newer stronger strains of pot might be valuable as an experience for me. The older giggly weak ass pot was not terribly exciting if you ask me. I am cool with chilling on the couch and laughing at simple things for a bit, but pot did not expand my mind or make me have great thoughts. It just made simple things vastly more entertaining.

    Other experiences of altered states have much more value to me. Some of the newer strains of pot offer up some better introspective highs with more value to me, but it is still just pot. Give me a strong ssri trip any day over a fluffy stoned. But that is not to say there are not fun times while stoned. Not everything has to be deep and meaningful.
     
  9. Max Rockatansky

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    Agreed. A good scientific experiment would be to minimize all of the variables before experimenting with marijuana strains.
     
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    I have smoked regularly for the past 50 years (ex hippie and all)

    Over that time having smoked 1,000s of joints with hundreds of people, I have encountered two people who suffered delusions. In both instances they were novice users (not first time) and didn't consume more than three tokes, no alcohol.

    I have seen all kinds of people pass out when drinking and smoking, but I believe that to be over consumption of one or both.

    For all my kids house parties (literally dozens) I posted signs saying Its not how much you drink/smoke, its ALL about maintaining the buzz. I also collected keys at the door.

    Like the wise man once said - everything in moderation.

    Happy toking or eating, which ever you prefer.
     
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    I live in one. I will try pot some day, but I understand you don't get much good out of the first time because your brain has never seen the stuff before, so I'd have to try it twice.
     
  12. Tererun

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    First mixing alcohol and weed may not be the experience you want. You might want to try it without drinking, or not.

    Second, the after effects do linger. It is one of the reasons I do not care much for it. The backside just makes me feel so sleepy and lazy. That lasts way too long for my taste. I do not want that much time of bleah from a high. I do not want to have to do something else to have to rid myself of the haze. I do recognize not all people get it like I do, so some people do much better on it than I do.

    Third the anxiety attack may have something to do with what you were doing while high. If you have a lot of stressors and do not distract yourself your mind will focus on your anxiety and that may make you anxious. Then not being able to be sober will just make you worse. Also if you have stressful things in your environment that will contribute to your stress. Sometimes you will want to change the station. Avoid tv and chose relaxing meditative music and distractions. Have distractions and things to play with. If you want an escape let your mind do something fun. Put fun things around for your mind to focus on. Do not expect the drug to take you to a good place if you are in a sinkhole. If you are going to watch t.v. chose lighthearted silly comedies. Do not watch the news, political bullshit, reality tv, or other stressors and expect not to be stressed. Watch fluffy stupid **** and play with fluffy stupid **** and pot is fun.

    Finally remember it is a drug. The experience may be negative because the drug does not mix with your personal chemistry or psychology. In that case just avoid it because you do not need it. Some things might be indicative of some difficulties in your life. Drugs won't make them go away, and there are better productive methods to deal with those things you can change. Pot is not going to solve any of those problems.
     
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    Not cool man. To do drugs is a personal choice with ramifications that are different for each of us. If he is having panic attacks on the substance then doing more of it may not be great advice. He knows how it is effecting him and what he gets out of it. If he is uncomfortable doing it that is not a weakness or a problem. It may indicate there is some overwhelming stress that is interfering with relaxation. It might also mean the substance just makes him panicky and uncomfortable. He has to evaluate those issues for himself and to tell him he needs a different strain may hurt him if the advice 's wrong.

    I would suggest taking it easy and looking at the causes of the anxiety. Is it rational and needs to be dealt with? Is it an irrational fear that is overwhelming. If the latter is the case doing drugs might be problematic and lead to psychotic episodes that are uncomfortable because those irrational fears become the focus of the high you cannot escape. You do not know that, and people who have certain mental issues are well advised to stay away from mind altering substances that may amplify or warp existing conditions to a point you cannot deal with them..

    Maybe some drug therapy could be helpful, but if that is the case you need someone a lot closer to you than some message board advice to guide you and help you. They need to know you personally and evaluate their advice based on your personal experiences and differences. What works for one person is not going to work for another in this area. There can be benefits and knowledge and experience can help with direction, but he needs some realistic advice and to be careful because there is discomfort and that can lead to some bad experiences on drugs.
     
  14. Guyzilla

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    The first time I ever smoked, was from a bong, in a car. I had a dream the day before, with stuka dive bombers, and the pressure in my head felt the same as bombs, in my dream, so it was frightening.

    But, it passes. Now, I use it to keep the buildup of fluids in my lungs. Works a treat for cottonmouth. And lung.
     
  15. Polydectes

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    No not likely I would go to one of those States but not for weed.

    I smoked a bit when I was younger it didn't do anything for me.
     
  16. sawyer

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    Marijuana amplifies who you already are. If you are violent you will get more violent, if you are meek you will get meeker and if you are prone to anxiety you will definitely become more anxious. I'm prone to be a workaholic and if I smoke the stuff which I haven't in years I get frantically busy and can't sit down. Then I open the refrigerator and clean it out. LOL
     
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  17. AlifQadr

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    Paladin,

    The headache sensation that you felt, I also experience when I smell marijuana, seriously. I do not use narcotics neither do I consume alcohol (ethyl) so whenever I smell either, I experience nausea and headaches. I can only imagine what I would feel if I used either one.
     
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    I only have a couple drinks a year now. Partying days are over (and good riddance).
     
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    I see it differently, which is the outcome of personal experience. To get rid of panic attacks, you jump on the tiger's back. People try to run away from panic attacks, and other things. I don't, but go fully into it when it is happening. Giving all of your effort into observing it, deeply. It is like being afraid of heights, yet you go to the edge and you jump off, metaphorically speaking. But given the discomfort of a panic attack, most people try to run away, and there is no escape at that moment. So, jump on the tiger's back. Worked for me long, long ago. Beats going on xanax or valium which only covers it up. And trying to find the cause, to analyse, can take the rest of your life. SO jump on the tiger.
     
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    Also depends on whether it's a sativa, indica or hybrid strain. Different strains give very different highs.
     
  21. One Mind

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    I have seen people catch a buzz the first time. But for me, I first tried it in the late 60s, and got nothing. I thought it was all in people's heads. I didn't try it again until 1974. This time I got off like a rocket. And I have heard several people say they had to do it twice before they got high.
     
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    Question, would you have any objection to a person or a group of persons doing something really "awful” to PO-LICE? You and Bob0627 mentioned that "legal" does not enter into your decision making process when it comes to you opting to use marijuana, so would you have any objection to a person or persons took it upon themselves to commit hideous acts against coppers? I am only seeking to gauge how far and deep your sentiment of ignoring what is "legal" goes.
    Yeah, FULL-ON LIFE!
     
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    I have never seen it make a person more violent. Quite the contrary. Sativa makes me talk. I am a really quiet feller, and can sit in company and just listen to people talk while not contributing much. But on sativa, my mouth turns into motor mouth. It makes me want to talk in an otherwise laconic social interaction.
     
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    I'm basing my violent comment on accounts I've read of criminals using marijuana before committing a crime. I'm non violent and pot makes me even mellower so I'm assuming anyone using pot before a violent crime is getting the opposite effect. As far as strains of pot go I'm not educated on that. When I smoked the stuff it was whatever the guy on the corner was selling. It was just pot or dope or weed, that's all I knew and know.
     
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    Сюрприз Сюрприз. Когда настало время для истины, ни один человек не может помешать его резкому успеху.
    Syurpriz Syurpriz. Kogda nastalo vremya dlya istiny, ni odin chelovek ne mozhet pomeshat' yego rezkomu uspekhu.

     

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